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Deadly Shooting Puts School on Lockdown (Pittsburgh)
KDKA ^ | 3/16/05 | KDKA

Posted on 03/16/2005 12:51:41 PM PST by HereComesTheGOP

Pittsburgh (KDKA) A deadly shooting outside Carrick High School this afternoon has put the school on lockdown.

Officials have confirmed that one student is dead and two others were wounded in the shooting around 2pm.

According to authorities, police stopped a car outside the school and were running a check on its license plate when another vehicle pulled up and started shooting at the car.

One juvenile in the car was shot in the head and killed; a second juvenile was critically injured by gunshots. A third juvenile in the car was injured by flying glass. Authorities believe all three were Carrick High School students.

Police say the shooting may have involved an AK-47.

As a precaution, students have been kept inside the building past their normal 2:17pm dismissal while police officers swarmed the area; but they're expected to be released within the hour.

More than 1300 students in ninth through twelfth grades are enrolled at Carrick High School, which is located on Parkfield Street.


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To: sdpatriot

glad to have been of some use.


401 posted on 03/17/2005 5:13:59 PM PST by King Prout (Remember John Adam!)
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To: Just another Joe
Concealed carry all the way.

For high-schoolers? I don't know about that one. A lot of the kids these days, as pointed out gleefully by some here on FR, don't have the mental maturity at 16 or 17 years old to make a lot of great decisions....
402 posted on 03/17/2005 9:36:05 PM PST by MikefromOhio (Silly Hippies, Bush Won!!!!)
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To: HereComesTheGOP
Wow, this has turned into a mega-thread since yesterday. I haven't read all posts, but I'll put in my 2 cents since I am familiar with a lot of what is being discussed.
Firstly, I don't believe the police were at the scene, but, at or called to the school to check out the car. Conflicting media reports.
The shootee and his "pals" were VERY bad seeds, junior thugs. keith watts' enemies shot up the special school bus that was delivering him home last month. Anyone near this punk was in danger. Carrick was a decent neighborhood, now "For Sale" signs all over. St. Clair Village (notorious housing project, predominately black) and Beltzhoover(predominately black) are in Carrick school district and drug wars are the cause of the violence. City of Pittsburgh (state or federal decree?) has been mainstreaming Section 8 housing into Carrick and surrounding areas so as not to "segregate" them from better neighborhoods. It's had the expected effect. Crime and violence into decent areas with flight by those who can. Pittsburgh has a high murder rate for it's size. Mostly black on black with a very high black on white violence/murder rate. And it's called a racist city. How right they are.
watts was a 16 yr. old freshman who got arrested last month driving a stolen car and possessing heroin. His father was a drug dealer killed on the streets.
They don't know if an ak47 was used. They know it was 7.62x39. I can think of 7 rifles (SKS is a very different rifle than the AK, but shoots 7.62x39), off the top of my head, that fire that round. The Ak47 comes in semi-auto only, perfectly legal in PA or select fire (full auto and semi), also legal in PA, if you do the dance and have the cash. The weapon used was probably a semi or an illegally converted full auto. IT IS AGAINST THE LAW TO MURDER ANYONE WITH EITHER. Banning law abiding citizens from owning them will not stop criminals from using them. It just means we will be outgunned.
403 posted on 03/17/2005 10:32:55 PM PST by Eagles6 (Dig deeper, more ammo.)
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To: Jim Verdolini

Agreed, I have to laugh each time I watch 'COPS' and the officers draw their sidearms and threaten the perps. The PERPS know the officers will NEVER shoot them, so they just start to run. Hilarious!


404 posted on 03/18/2005 1:02:32 AM PST by Jazzman1
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To: G32

Negative. As an ex-serviceman I have no problem with firearms. They, and skilful use thereof, have saved my life.

My comment was neutral, NOT anti-gun. But it was NOT pro-gun either!

If you flood a society with firearms, folks will sometimes use them on each other. Stands to reason. Whether they are single shot, full or semi-auto is immaterial.

Therefore it becomes co-lateral damage of the right to bear arms. It is the price you pay for the freedom to do so.

I do not have problem with it, just making the obvious observation.


405 posted on 03/18/2005 3:39:07 AM PST by 5050 no line
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To: sdpatriot

Though the courts are legislating from the bench, never accept that the Constitution reads any different than it does. Arms are arms. As rational people some exceptions make sense. Nukes are arms, I don't want everyone to have one.


406 posted on 03/18/2005 4:51:48 AM PST by Conspiracy Guy (Okay, you evolved. I was created. Get used to it.)
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To: PaRebel

I own a lot of semi-autos but no so call Assault Weapons.


407 posted on 03/18/2005 4:53:10 AM PST by Conspiracy Guy (Okay, you evolved. I was created. Get used to it.)
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To: Conspiracy Guy

From my perspective, if you need to use a "weapon", it's an assault weapon!! go figure. Gun grabbers are usually illogical when they argue, but then when facts don't matter to you, just your ideology, you can make any argument you want to. Their agenda is obvious, to disarm the populace. Now why would they want to do that? My answer is Molon Labe!


408 posted on 03/18/2005 5:44:18 AM PST by PaRebel (Self defense is an unalienable right!)
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To: PaRebel

Exactly. That is why I said "So called Assault Weapons".


409 posted on 03/18/2005 6:08:02 AM PST by Conspiracy Guy (Okay, you evolved. I was created. Get used to it.)
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To: MikeinIraq
For high-schoolers?

For anyone over 18.
Do they have the mental maturity? Some yes, some no.

The key thing is that the police can't protect you, even when they are on the scene at the time of the crime.

410 posted on 03/18/2005 6:13:47 AM PST by Just another Joe (Warning: FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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To: Just another Joe

ok...that is what I was hoping you were saying...

It just looked like you were advocating high schoolers be allowed to carry concealed. :)

No problem....


411 posted on 03/18/2005 6:17:32 AM PST by MikefromOhio (Silly Hippies, Bush Won!!!!)
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To: MikeinIraq
Well, think about it, Mike.

In the olden days, 1700s, 1800s, did kids, 13, 14 ,15, and younger, carry guns? Yes.
Were they more mature than kids nowadays? Probably, but the reason was that maturity was thrust upon them.
They knew that if they used that firearm, it'd better be for a damn good reason.
They could get hung, literally, for using that firearm.
Now they can't even get the death penalty. What's stopping them from committing a murder or two? They can always hit the reset button.

In this day and age, I wish that there was more of a return to the days of yore.

412 posted on 03/18/2005 6:23:37 AM PST by Just another Joe (Warning: FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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To: Just another Joe

I will take today just fine though.


Back then there was a reason for the kids to carry. There shouldnt be a reason for kids to carry these days. But you are right, the kids back then had to seriously consider the ramifications of what they did with that weapon. I dont know if it was correct back then either, mainly because of a lack of experience on the kids part...but if it works, it works.


413 posted on 03/18/2005 6:26:32 AM PST by MikefromOhio (Silly Hippies, Bush Won!!!!)
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To: SoothingDave

“Stop flattering yourself. You don't understand what I am saying. I never argued about the 2nd Amendment with you one time. You are bogged down in tiny details. I am talking about fundamental issues. You have never grasped that, even though I've come right out and told you. “

Dave, look who is full of themselves here. You desire to wax eloquent over philosophical issues and your perceived view of what the founders intended, though you do not back this up with valid cites. I ask for reality, cites, or links to serious argument.

If you do not want to discuss the issue in the context of what is, then fine. Go and speak to your fellow philosophers and I will continue to ask for history and the law.


414 posted on 03/18/2005 6:44:14 AM PST by Jim Verdolini
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To: Heartofsong83; MeekOneGOP
That's the problem. I would love to see immense gun control, but realistically, no matter how much gun control you have, the guns will still be available for criminals. Even illegally.

I'll take "horse nose" for $500, Meeky.

415 posted on 03/18/2005 8:12:31 AM PST by TBarnett34 ("Unnngh!" -John F'n Kerry, 11/2/04)
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To: PaRebel
... if you need to use a "weapon", it's an assault weapon!!

I was going to post to you about another subject any way. I guess one could use an assault newspaper, golf club, skillet, etc. also but for some reason reporters and the gun grabbers don't do that.

The othe subject. From your previous posts you seem to have some experience with the AK weapons. From my recollection the AK-47 was only made, even for the Russian military, for a very short time. They went to the AKM and the AK-74. A lot of countries affilliated with the Russians at the time made variations of the AK-xx. Seems as if today anything that fires a 7.62X39 round is called an AK-47 just as anything that took pictures was called a kodak.

I went to the web site you mentioned and was refered to the manufacturer of a modern day "AK-47." I notice that they use an RPK receiver and offer them chambered for.223 up to .308 as well as the 7.62X39. Since VEPR and others call theirs AK-47s I'll concede that AK-47s are available today in many variations although they aren't quite like the original.

One can also buy a "Colt" 1873 single action army or an 1894 Bisley of recent vintage but it isn't quite the same as the original.

416 posted on 03/18/2005 8:19:43 AM PST by FreePaul
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To: FreePaul

You're exactly correct! Manufacturing techniques change, of course, as well as "improvements", though I am sure I would get some arguments from the purists concerning the ability to improve on the design of the original AK! Actually, I prefer the .308 "version" of the AK, as produced by Robinsion and VEPR, as well as others.


417 posted on 03/18/2005 9:19:53 AM PST by PaRebel (Self defense is an unalienable right!)
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To: TBarnett34

Well, he clarified his original post.

"I said I would love to see it and I should have said
"if it worked", but it doesn't work." .....

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1364212/posts?page=25#25

There and also replied to other folks comments to his #11.

"Post haste" syndrome, I suppose. :^)

Thanks.


418 posted on 03/18/2005 10:13:50 AM PST by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: Jim Verdolini
Not to mention a non description of the vehicle, no mention of license tags. And if this was a block from the school, why the lock down?
419 posted on 03/18/2005 10:34:07 AM PST by Apogee
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To: melbell
"I applied for a concealed carry on a nuke just last week! ;)" Remember when inventors like Hiram Maxim and John Browning could build toys and not need licenses? Oh wait...we are civilized now.
420 posted on 03/18/2005 1:05:44 PM PST by beltfed308
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