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To: ruiner
Leave it to a British guy...

A British guy who, if not for America, would be speaking German... TWICE

4 posted on 03/15/2005 5:15:34 AM PST by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it.)
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To: Puppage
A British guy who, if not for America, would be speaking German... TWICE

I hear people say this all the time but I think in reality after WWII Europe and England would actually have been speaking Russian and not German.

With the Allies helping by furnishing equipment, supplies and naval blockades the Russian army would have defeated Germany, it would have taken longer without Germany having to fight a western front. But I think Germany's defeat was inevitable

10 posted on 03/15/2005 5:25:34 AM PST by federal
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To: Puppage
A British guy who, if not for America, would be speaking German...

Why do you say that? Britain repelled any possible German Invasion in 1940. America's part in the war up until Pearl Harbor was the position of friendly-neutral "tradesman". I don't think selling weapons, oil, food to the British for a profit really qualifies American revisionists to trot out this ridiculous "you'd all be speaking German" line. The British brought American tanks and they helped (with other arms) to win El Alamein. But the US didn't give the British the tanks, they sold them. For money. I don't have a problem with that, I just don't think it's as glorious a role as latter-day revisonists might think.

America finally joined the war because of Pearl Harbor, not to help Britain. Perversely, the people who gained most from Pearl Harbor were the Soviets. They were able to withdraw their troops from Siberia in the very nick of time to defend Moscow. I wouldn't be suprised to learn that Russian influence managed to tip the balance as to where the Japs attacked first - Pearl or north from Manchuquo. Certainly the Soviets knew about the Pearl attack before the Americans did - they withdrew the Siberian troops from their eastern border knowing that the japs were going elsewhere. Given the infestation of Rooselvelt's government with communists, it'd be really odd if there hadn't been some attempted soviet influence on American policy in the pacific just to help get the Japanese off Stalin's back.

The British were very glad to have the Americans alongside them BTW. But Hitler wasn't about to beat Britain, the same way Napoleon wasn't about to. The British developed jets before Hitler, had vastly better radar and weren't under the same illusions as Heisenberg about the amount of uranium required for a bomb. Not saying they would have won alone (hardly that) but its far-fetched to say they would have lost. No german lessons for them.

43 posted on 03/15/2005 6:08:36 AM PST by agere_contra
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