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Muslim group aims to mediate with Dell
Boston Globe ^ | 3/11/2005 | Diane E. Lewis

Posted on 03/14/2005 10:07:15 AM PST by 4.1O dana super trac pak

A national Muslim organization says it want to mediate with Dell Inc, over 30 Somali workers who are at the center of a dispute over prayer at work.

The Council on American and Islamic Relations in Washington, D.C. sent an e-mail and letter yesterday to Dell president and chief executive Kevin B. Rollins after the Nashville newspaper, The Tennessean, reported that the workers walked off their jobs last month because they were forced to "choose between their faith and their employment."

The workers, who loaded boxes or operated forklifts at Dell's Nashville plant, requested time off to pray at sunset and were told they could not, said Ibrahim Hooper, executive director of the council.

Dell spokesman T.R. Reis said the Texas-based computer manufacturing firm has a longstanding policy of accommodating workers of diffrent religious faiths. He said Dell is working with the Metropolitan Human Relations Commission in Nashville "to better understand and resolve the issue."

"There were some contract employees at our operation there who evidently were involved in something that was an anomaly in terms of a dispute with their manager over prayer breaks," said Reid.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Tennessee; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: cair; dell; islam; muslimamericans; shakedown; smearingdell; workplace
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21 posted on 03/14/2005 10:27:29 AM PST by EdReform (Free Republic - helping to keep our country a free republic. Thank you for your financial support!)
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To: 4.1O dana super trac pak

What's most interestin to me is what is not being emphasized here. Snippets from the article; "...Somali workers.." "...contract employees..." Ahh, it becomes clear now. Dell is too cheap to hire Americans so it hires Somalis "contract workers" for a pittance. You reaped what you sowed dudes. No more Dell's for me or mine.


22 posted on 03/14/2005 10:27:41 AM PST by atomic_dog
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To: Zivasmate
Good catch, would be appropriate to call it a "dog shift" then?
23 posted on 03/14/2005 10:32:02 AM PST by Wild Rabbit
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To: Cobra64

But we Christians are not a religion of peace. We've just a cult.


24 posted on 03/14/2005 10:32:29 AM PST by Conspiracy Guy (Reading is fundamental. Comprehension is optional.)
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To: Modernman

If they requested to be scheduled, it would be an individual thing,to each their own as it were. This is a group of employees,trying to enforce a group break,a religious break no less. Where is the ACLU on this why are they not all over this?
The only religion they will discriminate against is christianity.


25 posted on 03/14/2005 10:33:23 AM PST by northernlightsII
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To: drt1
And it would not temp them during ramadon, when you are forbidden to eat between sunrise and sunset.

A very accommodating and well thought answer.

26 posted on 03/14/2005 10:38:32 AM PST by dts32041 (When did the Democratic party stop being the political arm of the KKK?)
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To: markman46
I think the main problem is how they wnt about complaining..plus the fact that companys can set any rule they want.

Sure. I'm just wondering how Freepers would be reacting if these guys were Orthodox Jews or belonged to a sect of Christianity that forbade its adherents from working on a particular day?

The fact that these guys are Muslim should be irrelevant to this conversation.

27 posted on 03/14/2005 10:39:04 AM PST by Modernman ("Normally, I don't listen to women, or doctors." - Captain Hero)
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To: 4.1O dana super trac pak
A national Muslim organization says it want to mediate with Dell Inc, over 30 Somali workers who are at the center of a dispute over prayer at work.

Not only should Dell not capitulate, they should make being Islamic a firing offense.

28 posted on 03/14/2005 10:39:29 AM PST by Lazamataz (Proudly Posting Without Reading the Article Since 1999!)
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To: Cobra64
I'm a Christian, and sometimes work on Sundays.

Sure. I personally think that the company has the right to refuse to grant them this privilege.

However, my question is: how would Freepers be reacting to this if it was 30 Christians asking for a minor accomodation from their employer?

29 posted on 03/14/2005 10:40:37 AM PST by Modernman ("Normally, I don't listen to women, or doctors." - Captain Hero)
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To: Modernman
Sure. I'm just wondering how Freepers would be reacting if these guys were Orthodox Jews or belonged to a sect of Christianity that forbade its adherents from working on a particular day?

That's different. The two you mentioned are religions -- as opposed to Islam, which is a blood-cult founded by a pedophile.

30 posted on 03/14/2005 10:40:45 AM PST by Lazamataz (Proudly Posting Without Reading the Article Since 1999!)
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To: 4.1O dana super trac pak

Don't they get coffee or lunch breaks?


31 posted on 03/14/2005 10:41:01 AM PST by stuartcr
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To: 4.1O dana super trac pak
Tell them this:

Dude! You're gettin' fired!

32 posted on 03/14/2005 10:42:48 AM PST by SVeritas
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To: Lazamataz
That's different. The two you mentioned are religions -- as opposed to Islam, which is a blood-cult founded by a pedophile.

Whatever your feelings about a particular religion, so long as the people in question, such as these Somali guys, are peaceful and law-abiding members of society, their religious rights should be respected.

That being said, I don't think Dell should be required to give in here.

33 posted on 03/14/2005 10:43:47 AM PST by Modernman ("Normally, I don't listen to women, or doctors." - Captain Hero)
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To: atomic_dog
You reaped what you sowed dudes. No more Dell's for me or mine.

The Somali's requested time off to pray at sunset and were told they could not, said Ibrahim Hooper, executive director of the council.

They were told they could not take a prayer break.  And this causes you to make that statement that you will now refuse to buy a Dell?  Why?  Because they refused the Somali's to take a prayer break?  I am confused.

34 posted on 03/14/2005 10:44:41 AM PST by SheLion (The America we once knew and loved ........................is gone.)
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To: tx_eggman

If that makes it more palatable for you, sure. Go ahead.


35 posted on 03/14/2005 10:45:06 AM PST by theDentist (The Dems are putting all their eggs in one basket-case: Howard "Belltower" Dean.)
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To: Modernman

" Interesting question. These guys might not be popular on FR due to their religion. I wonder how people would be responding if they were Orthodox Jews who requested that their employer not schedule them to work on Saturdays? "


As an Orthodox Jew, I can tell you that most employers are very understanding of the Orthodox Jewish religious needs,and treat us with the utmost respect. The only thing they usually ask in return is not to take advantage of the situation, which few if any people in that category do, that I know of.

That's why I am very curious hear Dell's side of this story. I have a feeling all the facts have yet to emerge.


36 posted on 03/14/2005 10:45:48 AM PST by Zivasmate (" A wise man's heart inclines him to his right, but a fool's heart to his left." - Ecclesiastes 10)
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To: 4.1O dana super trac pak

Is Dell paying the ragheads to pray or work? Pray on your own time, work when you're on your employer's time. Simple. Nothing to mediate.


37 posted on 03/14/2005 10:46:08 AM PST by Astronaut
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To: Modernman

Exactly.


38 posted on 03/14/2005 10:46:47 AM PST by theDentist (The Dems are putting all their eggs in one basket-case: Howard "Belltower" Dean.)
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To: 4.1O dana super trac pak
What would Reagan do? Fire them all is the answer.
39 posted on 03/14/2005 10:46:57 AM PST by Fast1 (Destroy America buy Chinese goods,Shop at Wal Mart)
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To: Zivasmate
That's why I am very curious hear Dell's side of this story. I have a feeling all the facts have yet to emerge.

I tend to agree. Especially since CAIR is involved. I actually have a hard time believing that a major corporation with professional PR and legal advice would refuse a minor religious accomodation to its employees.

40 posted on 03/14/2005 10:48:48 AM PST by Modernman ("Normally, I don't listen to women, or doctors." - Captain Hero)
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