Posted on 03/13/2005 4:13:00 PM PST by metalmanx2j
Edited on 03/13/2005 4:50:00 PM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]
Yeah, your type is "the base". That's how Pat Buchanan got elected President....
Man, you're opening the flood gates with this one....
Actually they impact our lives frequently. They do in fact solicit. You have never been invited? Count yourself lucky. Male homosexuals are very open about their invitations to any kid on his own (parants out of sight) and interested in the new world of sex.
What about diversity training? There are constant reminders that since this practice is being done anyway we may as well open up and embrace it. Homosexuals should be able to be as open as heterosexuals in public, and the heterosexual world should provide help in bringing homosexuals together and welcoming them into society...
Then there is school, where teachers and professional trainers can come in and show your wonderful children that there are options perhaps they have never considered themselves.
Where are you coming from that you don't view this as a threat? Do you at least acknowledge that it is a significant culture change? If you acknowledge this, is it a change you are looking forward to? Perhaps because we are ignorant but you are enlightened?
Oh. Well. Thank goodness we're not being judgemental!
"Children of the Devil" isn't a condemnation or an abuse. It's more like a diagnosis, or maybe a "term of art". It means something like: they are in a state of mortal sin and are currently rejecting God's offer of grace, and distancing themselves further and further from grace (whether they mean to or not) by their behavior.
Just as Bunyan's Pilgrim's Progress suggests there is a way to Hell even at the gates of Heaven, I think there is a way to Heaven even at the gates of Hell. So, for me, saying someone is a child of the devil (not language I use much, but it doesn't make me get all jittery to hear it either) isn't as much about their ultimate destination as it is about their current heading and situation.
"Unlike these "gay" kids who attend dances with a same sex date or otherwise flaunt their perversion"
"The "gay" kid - at least the one described in this article - is putting her "difference" in everybody's face and daring them not to react."
This is the left's definition of "tolerance". "Tolerance" is not enough though, they want you to CELEBRATE it! If you disagree, one day you will be thrown in jail under "hate crime legislation". I read that there are some preachers in Canada, and recently in PA that have been accused of "hate crimes" for preaching against this degenerate lifestyle.
FYI, (Saint) Valentine's (feast) Day is being changed to "Love Day." Coming soon to a school near you. Really.
First, that is a CLASSIC liberal mode of argument. To consider something wrong is NOT the same thing nor is it necessarily motivated by being afraid of it. I am afraid of the dentist, though I know he does me good. I am not sufficently afraid of eating at MacDonalds, though I suspect (and my doc agrees) that it does me harm.
In other words, sometimes thoughtful consideration leads to fear, to an appropriate fear. Will you then characterize me as "so afraid...."
By making the charge of fear and the implication that fear is directing our thoughts, you are distracting attention from your assumption "...they do not affect your life at all." Do they not? How much of my tax dollar goes to deal with a disease the main spread of which is caused by homosexual practices? How much of my tax dollar goes toward "tolerance education", how much to litigating over same-sex marriage?
While I don't much FEEL impinged upon by homosexuals, when I think about it, I realize that they affect my life considerably -- and often for the worse.
I say again, describing someone as a child of the devil does not necessarily mean I hate them -- and I've always thought of myself as more a Cromagnon type actually.
How would you characterize the kind of person who makes disparaging attributions about those who espouse a view differing from his own?
Interesting. Note that occasionally "advice" columns in the papers get a letter from a young teen who wonders if he might be gay. The answer is always to send the kid to his local GLBT group to help him "deal with it."
Praise ye the LORD. Praise the LORD, O my soul. While I live will I praise the LORD: I will sing praises unto my God while I have any being. Put not your trust in princes, nor in the son of man, in whom there is no help. His breath goeth forth, he returneth to his earth; in that very day his thoughts perish.
"As a heterosexual man, with a long time marriage to wonderful woman I always wonder why people are so afraid of gays when they do not affect your life at all."
Peach, Clee, PeaceBeWithYou,KC-For-Freedom:
I am calling this "Ca_Green" out as a troll.
Please notice his/her registration date:
Since Mar 10, 2005
The comments I quoted above are the same propaganda repeated over and over. CaGreen is what we like to call an "opinion shaper" (I'm sure he/she is from DU). Don't fall for it!
Please notice the following communist goals from the 1963 congressional record (the others are eye opening, visit the link):
http://www.uhuh.com/nwo/communism/comgoals.htm
40. Discredit the family as an institution. Encourage promiscuity and easy divorce.
24. Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them "censorship" and a violation of free speech and free press.
25. Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio, and TV.
26. Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as "normal, natural, healthy."
Im against Homosexual marraige (It is the proper scientific term, and I refuse to let the left redefine the word "Gay" just like they do everything else). The democrats don't care about Homosexuals, they just use them to promote their Gramscian communist goals. They want to destroy marraige, because by destroying the family unit, the state can grab more power. Read the communist manifesto, "abolition of the family unit".
I also know the left doesn't stop with their demands, today they are begging for Homo Marraige and pretend that it will be all that's required for "equality". The next thing you know, the Homosexuals will demand an "Affirmative Action" type policy for adoption, where the Homosexuals get priority over Hetero couples.
I know many gay people, and they do NOT want to get married, nor do they want gay marriage. The number of Homosexuals who want marriage is a minority of an already exceedingly small minority. Commitment is NOT in their culture, especially gay men. All one has to do is look at other countries that have gay marraige and recognize that it's done exactly what Gramsci and other communists wanted-- the breakdown of the family unit. After homosexual marriage permeated in Sweden, the numbers of those getting married has dropped tremendously. In the Netherlands, those men in homosexual marriages continue to get/spread AIDS to people other than their partners (you know, the ones they're supposed to be committed to).
Reading on the Frankfurt School/Herbert Marcuse/Antonio Gramsci is recommended. Here's a starter article:
"Gramsci's Grand Plan"
http://www.thenewamerican.com/tna/1999/07-05-99/vo15no14_gramsci.htm
Totally agreed! Please see my comments on this thread, #196...I am calling Ca_Green out as a troll.....
no per the www.forthechildreninc.com tapes of GLSEN and homo adovcates, the homosexuals want to make children peer pressured into experimenting with homosexual sex. They want children to feel like freaks and abnormal if they are not homosexuals.
Once they experiment once then the homoadvocates will push indoctrination that one homosexual experience makes the child always a homosexual. (see molestation victims)
It is so sick that it is criminal. If it was any other group than homosexual advocates, they would be in jail as pedophiles.
Some of us feel that your post that gays don't affect our lives at all is really only part of the truth. Certainly there are gay people who just live their lives quietly and don't have a larger agenda.
It is the radical gay agenda that concerns most of us. And it should concern you too.
You have to wonder why the radical gay community is so anxious to get their hands on our young people.
Last year I had a letter to the editor published in the paper regarding gay marriage. After telling people about Tammy Bruce' book and reminding people that Clinton signed the defense of marriage act, this is what was in the letter and about 2 hours of research on the internet provided:
In Vermont, a program was instituted called Outright Vermont. Vermont schools advertise this program on bulletin boards and the materials contain links to web sites which lead to adult gay male porn sites. Last year, NYT opened the first gay high school in the nation.
Former Gov. Gay Davis of California signed a sex education law that requires students to adopt a healthy attitude toward homosexuality. The NEA has been developing programs to incorporate the gay agenda into our public schools for children of all ages.
Many programs have been in place for over 20 years and the curricula is getting more radical each year.
NEA is trying to force state governments to require both home schoolers and private schools to teach pro gay agendas or refuse to validate their diplomas.
The NEA has successfully sponsored a curriculum which some schools have adopted that requires children to partake in "Gay Day" which involved playacting.
In March 2002, Penn State University featured an advocate of pedophilia at a women's health conference, despite congressional disapproval and parental concerns.
In 1998, the American Psychological Associated claimed that pedophilia often "does not cause intense harm on a pervasive basis."
The North American Man Boy Love Assoc. (NAMBLA) is a regularly quoted member of the gay movement and pedophile themes abound in their literature. Their web site quotes "...instead of condemning pedophiles for their involvement with lesbian and gay youth, we should be supporting them." The gay movement does not condemn these comments or ask that the Association refrain from attaching itself to their agenda.
The taboo against adult-child sex is eroding and the NYT and other cultural elite press regularly praise literary works containing pedophilia relationships. Poet Allen Ginsberg was a pedophile and member of NAMBLA. His poetry contained explicit references to pedophilia and yet when he died in 1997, journalists praised him as an icon whose poetry was without rival.
Researchers differ on the numbers, but approximately 25% of gay men report they wre molested as children which they blame for setting them on the road to homosexuality. This is not to paint all gays as having predatory motives, but I believe that gay marriage will provide an access to children through adoption that is unprecedented and dangerous. And yet, we are told that praying in school is dangerous to our children. Moral relativism is standing on its head.
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