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To: sukhoi-30mki

I do side with the oppressed in Iraq. I am glad that they are finally free. Although I was opposed to the war, I am glad that good has come out of it.

India will not be truly free as long as the Nehru-Gandhi clan keeps a strangle-hold on all Indians. Their Machiavellian politics is so dark age. I was hopeful that maybe things will change under the BJP, although I was afraid of its RSS wing.

I cannot speak for all of India, but if what I have seen in Bihar is any indication of how things are in the Plains then I truly feel sorry for the dalits and the under privleged. The true power base of the oppressing class in Bihar and UP is the federal govt. The ruling class in those areas control all federally distributed goodies, notably food through the rationing system that much of rural India depends on. Once we can decentralize these states, the Brahmin class will fall on its knees.

I will tell you one more thing about the ruling class in India which still today send shiver through my spine. I was in Delhi on October 31, 1984 - enough said.


31 posted on 03/13/2005 9:33:06 PM PST by econ_grad
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To: econ_grad

& Ur thinking that India will not change.I live in India & have seen the changes around me.I don't need a lecture from an outsider who believes that the dismemberment of Yugoslavia was a good thing.


32 posted on 03/13/2005 9:37:57 PM PST by sukhoi-30mki
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Err..... buddy. The state government in Bihar is a party of the Dalits and the party is one of India's most corrupt. The party lead by Laloo Prasad Yadav (who is champions the cause of the "Backward Casts") is the ruling mafia. It is the "dalits" who elect their nemesis.


35 posted on 03/13/2005 9:56:30 PM PST by Gengis Khan ("There is no glory in incomplete action." -- Gengis Khan)
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And who or what exactly do you mean by "ruling class"? I live in India and so far never heard of the any such thing. And I will tell you one more thing, the 'dalits' hold immense political power. They reason why they have still remained backward is not because "ruling class"(whatever you mean by that) has exploited them but because their corrupt "so-called-dalit-leaders" have failed them.

You sound like a stinking commie talking about class struggle.


38 posted on 03/13/2005 10:09:18 PM PST by Gengis Khan ("There is no glory in incomplete action." -- Gengis Khan)
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To: econ_grad; sukhoi-30mki; Arjun; CarrotAndStick; AM2000
I cannot speak for all of India, but if what I have seen in Bihar is any indication

Ah, there's econ's problem -- he's seen India's shame, Bihar. That's a cesspit of a state with the lowest literacty, employment etc. levels and the one that drags India down -- along with UP, it is the state most Indians wish would sink to hell and good riddance. However, they still keep paying for the upkeep of those states. Look at the WEstern and Southern states -- their literacy, economic etc. levels are far, far better.
57 posted on 03/14/2005 12:47:22 AM PST by Cronos (Never forget 9/11)
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