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Wanted: Unification of India and Pakistan
Asia News Network/The Statesman ^ | 2005-03-12

Posted on 03/12/2005 11:47:16 PM PST by nickcarraway

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To: econ_grad

Muslims are years behind the rest of the worlds religions when it comes to living in peace with others. Almost all sympathize with some form of terrorism. Find me a Muslim who is against both al-qaeda and the targeted killing of innocent Israeli women and children. The Majority of Muslims support terrorism in some form. Many of the ones who are against al-qaeda will still support groups like Hamas who target and kill innocent civilians. Facts are facts. Islam is not a religion of peace.


21 posted on 03/13/2005 2:06:13 PM PST by ThermoNuclearWarrior (PRESSURE BUSH TO CLOSE THE BORDERS!!!)
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To: Red in Blue Maine

India, Pakistan, and Bangladesh were one country before the Brits divided us in 1947 on the premise that Muslims and Hindus could not live in peace together. We have proved them wrong. India now has a Muslim President and the President of Pakistan was born in India. If the two Germanys could unite, if the two Koreas want to unite, what is wrong with the fragments of undivided India wanting to unite.

We are one people, we look the same, we dress the same, and we speak the same language.

Here's to reunification of the Indian subcontinent--the best bet against terrorism.

PS. Muslims have more freedom in India than in any other Islamic country. You even come across Muslim atheists in India--something unthinkable elsewhere.


22 posted on 03/13/2005 6:02:56 PM PST by Agnostic
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To: ThermoNuclearWarrior

You are wrong on both counts. I can find plenty of Muslims who are opposed to both AlQueda and Hamas and Palestinians. You just need to look outside the Arab world.


23 posted on 03/13/2005 6:41:10 PM PST by econ_grad
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To: Agnostic

I thought this was interesting:

http://sify.com/news/othernews/fullstory.php?id=13692416


24 posted on 03/13/2005 6:45:16 PM PST by Agnostic
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To: econ_grad
I'm sure there are some. But I still believe the majority of Muslims sympathize with terrorism in some form even if they don't actively participate in it.
25 posted on 03/13/2005 6:45:38 PM PST by ThermoNuclearWarrior (PRESSURE BUSH TO CLOSE THE BORDERS!!!)
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To: ThermoNuclearWarrior

Not true. Most Arabs, yes. But there are plenty of Christian Arabs who side with Palestinians as well. There are tons of non-Arab Muslims in the world who don't want either.


26 posted on 03/13/2005 7:44:20 PM PST by econ_grad
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To: Agnostic

Thank God for the Brits to have the courage to divide India. An un-divided India would have been a huge headache for minorities everywhere. They say about a million people died during the India-Pakistan division. If they hadn't more than 10 times would have been dead. India and Pakistan are much better off separate. In fact, I wouldn't even mind seeing ten different countries carved out of India.

India is a giant Yugoslavia. Different parts of India should separate into different countries based on culture and language.


27 posted on 03/13/2005 7:49:03 PM PST by econ_grad
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To: econ_grad; Cronos; Gengis Khan; CarrotAndStick

You know what-you are a disgusting,sadistic lout.


28 posted on 03/13/2005 8:58:33 PM PST by sukhoi-30mki
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To: sukhoi-30mki

I will side with the oppressed any day of the week. If that makes me sadistic, I wear that honor with pride.


29 posted on 03/13/2005 9:16:02 PM PST by econ_grad
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To: econ_grad

Ok-go & side with the "oppressed" in Iraq.

Oops,Poor OBL is also oppressed.


30 posted on 03/13/2005 9:18:31 PM PST by sukhoi-30mki
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To: sukhoi-30mki

I do side with the oppressed in Iraq. I am glad that they are finally free. Although I was opposed to the war, I am glad that good has come out of it.

India will not be truly free as long as the Nehru-Gandhi clan keeps a strangle-hold on all Indians. Their Machiavellian politics is so dark age. I was hopeful that maybe things will change under the BJP, although I was afraid of its RSS wing.

I cannot speak for all of India, but if what I have seen in Bihar is any indication of how things are in the Plains then I truly feel sorry for the dalits and the under privleged. The true power base of the oppressing class in Bihar and UP is the federal govt. The ruling class in those areas control all federally distributed goodies, notably food through the rationing system that much of rural India depends on. Once we can decentralize these states, the Brahmin class will fall on its knees.

I will tell you one more thing about the ruling class in India which still today send shiver through my spine. I was in Delhi on October 31, 1984 - enough said.


31 posted on 03/13/2005 9:33:06 PM PST by econ_grad
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To: econ_grad

& Ur thinking that India will not change.I live in India & have seen the changes around me.I don't need a lecture from an outsider who believes that the dismemberment of Yugoslavia was a good thing.


32 posted on 03/13/2005 9:37:57 PM PST by sukhoi-30mki
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To: Yardbird
You have got that right. I am hoping that the Indians would never allow that to happen. Israel is very much aware if it allows all the Palestinians to return, and live peacefully with the Israelis, they will soon be outnumbered, and their open society/laws will be used against them.
33 posted on 03/13/2005 9:46:40 PM PST by conservlib
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To: econ_grad

If you dont mind just a little bit of blood bath.......... then carving you up wont be such a bad idea either huh? Whad do you say?


34 posted on 03/13/2005 9:47:01 PM PST by Gengis Khan ("There is no glory in incomplete action." -- Gengis Khan)
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To: econ_grad

Err..... buddy. The state government in Bihar is a party of the Dalits and the party is one of India's most corrupt. The party lead by Laloo Prasad Yadav (who is champions the cause of the "Backward Casts") is the ruling mafia. It is the "dalits" who elect their nemesis.


35 posted on 03/13/2005 9:56:30 PM PST by Gengis Khan ("There is no glory in incomplete action." -- Gengis Khan)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

You are the only person in the world who thinks that the dismemberment of Yugoslavia is a bad thing. Let me in on a fact that you may not know if you were educated by Nehru pro-Soviet propaganda. Serbia, Croatia, Bosnia, Montenegro - were all independent before the Soviets "unified" them. After the Soviet Union was gone, people simply went their own way. The Czechs and the Slovaks left without a shot. Yugoslavia would have been fine if it wasn't for Milosevic.

Just because you live in India, that doesn't mean you speak for most Indians. Take a trip into the rural areas of Bihar and Bengal and see how many of your fellow Indians share your feelings. Just because you are an Indian, that doesn't mean I cannot speak for those who would rather be free from Indian fiefdom. India wants to run a modern economy with dark age policies. They have preserved the worst aspects of the British raj, and have invented a few of their own.


36 posted on 03/13/2005 9:57:35 PM PST by econ_grad
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To: Gengis Khan

You missed my whole point. I don't care what political party you belong to, the federal govt is still a fiefdom which will bestow privileges to the ones who agree with their politics. When the MPs go to Delhi they simply become political pawns in that power struggle. Their position in Delhi gives them political power and control. I have even known candidates who oppose these MPs shot dead in broad daylight. The federal govt has a strangle-hold over rural India and these politicians have figured out how to stay in power once they get to Delhi. The poison is the fiefdom of the federal govt, which is not going anywhere given the socialist nature of India.


37 posted on 03/13/2005 10:04:56 PM PST by econ_grad
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To: econ_grad

And who or what exactly do you mean by "ruling class"? I live in India and so far never heard of the any such thing. And I will tell you one more thing, the 'dalits' hold immense political power. They reason why they have still remained backward is not because "ruling class"(whatever you mean by that) has exploited them but because their corrupt "so-called-dalit-leaders" have failed them.

You sound like a stinking commie talking about class struggle.


38 posted on 03/13/2005 10:09:18 PM PST by Gengis Khan ("There is no glory in incomplete action." -- Gengis Khan)
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To: claudiustg

Boy, that could be a sticky wicket.


39 posted on 03/13/2005 10:11:29 PM PST by WKUHilltopper
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To: econ_grad; Gengis Khan

Sorry,but I assume you don't know about the majority Freeper's opinions on the breakup of Yugoslavia.The formation of Muslim majority states in the Balkans has already started causing problems for the rest of the world.You have any clue about the money that GCC nations pump into those new countries & where the money trail leads???Ive lived in the Middle East & know the vicious propaganda that was unleashed not against Slobo,but against Christian Serbs.

Ive been to most parts of India & I have a much better idea of how my countrymen think given that I do read a lot of newspapers which are by no means pro-government.How many Indians said they want to be free from India's fiefdom??You have no idea of how your own countrymen think,let alone how Indians think.


40 posted on 03/13/2005 10:13:51 PM PST by sukhoi-30mki
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