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To: sitetest

1. It isn't a generalization to say some are keeping the rest from winning as many hears and minds as they could for a mandate.

2. If even you wont assert that there is no problem, then we agree, and I hope you will now give it a rest. lol

Have a good day. : )


1,482 posted on 03/13/2005 12:30:18 PM PST by Trinity_Tx (Since Oct 9, 2000...Just a new, and soon to be changed nick - I forgot there was a Trinity, Texas)
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To: Trinity_Tx

Dear Trinity_Tx,

Hey, if you want to back down from your previous false assertions, don't let me stop you.

However, you still are having trouble getting it right:

"1. It isn't a generalization to say some are keeping the rest from winning as many hears and minds as they could for a mandate."

First, regarding a mandate. If you've been paying attention over the years, you're aware that:

1. The numbers of Americans holding increasingly pro-life positions is rising, especially among college-educated younger folks (I guess all the mean pro-lifers aren't having quite the expected effect);

2. Large majorities (typically 60% or more, depending on phrasing of the questions), when asked, "Would you restrict abortion to cases of life of the mother, rape, incest, and severe fetal deformity?" answer, "yes."

As these represent over 95% of all abortions, that means that the mandate exists RIGHT NOW to reduce abortions to a small trickle.

The mandate exists. You just missed it.

But, that isn't quite what you originally said, anyway.

As I said, if you want to back down from your previous assertions, don't let me stop you.

But I'll remind you of your inconsistencies.

You said:

"It is your 'strategy' of dogmatism and rudely offending everyone who you even think veers even slightly away from your position that hasn't even been able to get rid of partial birth abortion - which would be easy to outlaw if the fight against it weren't bogged down by the heavy-handed, 'no compromise' baggage."

And, you said:

"If pro-lifers worked to elect politicians who respected the constitution, rather than blowing them off because they didn't toe the whole moment of conception, no compromise line, that wouldn't be a problem."

Both of these statements have no contact points with reality.

They are both demonstrated as false, see previous posts.

But if you now want to back down to something more like this:

"Well, if pro-lifers were to make more nicey-nice, then perhaps a few more people might join our cause,"

then have at it. The change is noted and accepted, if not agreed-to.

While you're at it, why don't you apologize to all the millions of pro-lifers you've unfairly smeared who:

- work in pregnancy aid and crisis pregnancy centers;

- have devised all manner of clever compromises to at least mitigate the evils of abortion, including parental notification, waiting periods, PBA ban, informed consent, and others;

- have written and petitioned elected representatives to pass these COMPROMISES, and who have SUCCEEDED in many cases, frustrated only by the anti-democratic, fascists who comprise the majority of the current Supreme Court;

- support the pro-life resources nationally and in their local communities with fundraisers, publicity, and in-kind donations;

- work for politicians who are often badly-flawed from the pro-life perspective, but with whom we COMPROMISE to advance the goal of protecting all children, born and unborn, in law.

Then, perhaps you might give it a rest. ;-)


sitetest


1,487 posted on 03/13/2005 1:11:21 PM PST by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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