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To: Protagoras
The subject is murder, if you have a question about murder, ask it. This thread isn't about the war, which I would be happy to discuss with you on any appropriate thread. Feel free to ping me to the next one you see. My position on murder is consistent, I can assure you.

No, "murder" is simply your label on certain types of killing. Lots of Michael Moore types also label the killing of innocent Iraqis as "murder" as well. I (and presumably you) don't accept them placing that label on Iraqi killings. They could just as easily dismiss any discussion of it in just as flippant a way as you did on the abortion question. It seems your opposition to abortion for rape and incest is based on your reaction to the deliberate killing of an innocent. But you must accept the deliberate killing of an innocent in Iraq (deliberate as in we deliberately choose to conduct this operation). I don't see a consistency there. Some of us accept the killing of an unborn child in the first trimester for victims of rape if the mother/victim so desires as an unfortunate side effect of the mitigation of the crime of rape, just as we accept the killing of innocent Iraqi children as the unfortunate side effect of the elimination of the Ba'athist tyranny. I feel bad for both of their deaths and wish we didn't have to make that choice, but life is not so simple sometimes.

1,042 posted on 03/11/2005 10:33:01 PM PST by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: FreedomCalls
I would respond to your post,,if it deserved it.

Murder and killing are different things. Murdering a child because of the circumstances of it's conception is wrong. Everywhere and always.

God made these children. They were chosen before they were born. Evil exists. Anyone who murders these children is evil. Anyone who condones it is likewise evil. Everywhere and always.

1,047 posted on 03/11/2005 10:42:49 PM PST by Protagoras (If the Republican Party enacts a new tax they will be out of power for at least a generation)
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To: FreedomCalls

You're analogy fails miserably. Yes, innocent people are killed in war. If it is done deliberately, it is murder. Abortion is always a deliberate act and the fact of the matter is that the overwhelming number of abortions are a personal "choice", not a medical necessity or because the woman was raped or the baby was incestual.


1,051 posted on 03/11/2005 10:44:39 PM PST by jwalsh07
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