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Condi "Mildly Pro-Choice"
http://www.drudgereport.com ^ | 3-11-2005 | Matt Drudge

Posted on 03/11/2005 6:32:41 PM PST by Sola Veritas

Rice pointedly declined to rule out running for president in 2008 on Friday during an hour-long interview with reporters at WASHINGTON TIMES, top sources tell DRUDGE. Rice gave her most detailed explanation of a 'mildly pro-choice' stance on abortion, she would not want the government 'forcing its views' on abortion... She explained that she is libertarian on the issue, adding: 'I have been concerned about a government role'... Developing late Friday for Saturday cycles... MORE...


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To: Theodore R.

"This is an opinion written as a fact."

What an odd thing to say on a discussion board. Of course, it is my opinion, and I believe it is valid. Having Condi on the ticket would shift a significant share of the black vote to our side. Black voters would have to weigh their disagreements with bits of Condi's views with the great opportunity to have a black person as president or veep.


1,361 posted on 03/12/2005 1:34:05 PM PST by zook
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma

Although she made that remark, I think she might be VP material. What do you think about that?


1,362 posted on 03/12/2005 1:34:14 PM PST by Brilliant
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To: HappyHere
There is separation of church and state somewhere. I'm not sure where, but somewhere.

At least you confess your ignorance. Maybe, like our liberal judges, you can find it in an 'emanation' or a 'penumbra'. If I were you, I'd look there first, because it sure isn't in the plain words of the Constitution.

And the church is not a political party in America.

Thank God. But who said it was?

Citizens of America are proud to vote in elections even if they make the wrong choice. The pride stems from the voting itself. It is difficult enough to get to the polls from work, and amazing to think that religious people have the luxury to boycott voting.

'Religious people' are some of the most dedicated voters in America, thank goodness.

1,363 posted on 03/12/2005 1:35:52 PM PST by EternalVigilance (Taglinus FreeRepublicus: An awesome demonstration of the fact that Free Republic is awash in genius!)
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To: All

There are many conservatives, like myself, who are willing to permit abortion in limited cases, perhaps up to 8 weeks, to save a mother's life, or in cases of rape and incest. I suspect my view is close to Condi's. It's possible that some conservatives will stay home if she's on the ticket. But I suspect that their number will be more than made up for by moderates, some liberals, and blacks.


1,364 posted on 03/12/2005 1:38:23 PM PST by zook
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To: medscribe
You cannot change hearts and minds with absolutism right off the bat. While I am as pro-life as anyone, I understand that I will not convince my pro-choice friends of my position and the reasons behind it if I condemn them as murderers everytime we speak of the issue. The 2 sides screaming at each other will not solve the problem of 40+ million unborn dead since 1973. The SC justices who rendered that decision will burn in Hell for Eternity, but that does not solve the problem right now that Roe is the law of the land and until we can change the fundamental thinking of this country, we cannot change the law.

I agree with you on this with one exception. There are many Christians and pro lifers who believe if these justices had made an affirmation to Christ, then not matter their judical decision(s), they are heaven bound.

1,365 posted on 03/12/2005 1:38:29 PM PST by joesbucks
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To: joesbucks
I think Bob Dole was taken kicking and screaming to the pro life part of the platform. George Bush the I was ambivilant toward it. So being fervent pro life or choice doesn't seem to be the barometer of getting the nomimnation.

True. But we held them to the platform.

In addition, it wasn't a pro-lifer who ciphened votes away from these candidates during losing elections. It was pro choice Ross Perot.

Exactly. The pro-lifers stayed loyal.

Which shouldn't surprise anyone. Party 'moderates' talk a good game about unity and loyalty to the party, but the examples of them torpedoeing good pro-life candidates are legion.

1,366 posted on 03/12/2005 1:38:41 PM PST by EternalVigilance (Taglinus FreeRepublicus: An awesome demonstration of the fact that Free Republic is awash in genius!)
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To: joesbucks

Well said... as have been your other posts. : )


1,367 posted on 03/12/2005 1:39:02 PM PST by Trinity_Tx (Since Oct 9, 2000...Just a new, and soon to be changed nick - I forgot there was a Trinity, Texas)
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To: Brilliant

Condi is too liberal,she probably wouldn't win one primary, this whole dicussion is a waste of time. Can we give the 4 year presidential campaigning a break ? This is insanity.


1,368 posted on 03/12/2005 1:42:02 PM PST by John Lenin (A little anarchy and it's curtains)
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To: mamelukesabre; supercat
Common sense, pragmatism, and smart tactics are alien concepts to them. If they weren't, partial-birth abortion would have been outlawed years ago, and likely late-term abortions as well. Maybe even surgical abortions would be history.

To be *effective*, the pro-life movement needs to go back to the drawing board.

But apparently, effectiveness isn't as important to the ones hindering real change as is the self-gratification they get screaming pious platitudes of No Compromise from their soapboxes.
1,369 posted on 03/12/2005 1:54:12 PM PST by Trinity_Tx (Since Oct 9, 2000...Just a new, and soon to be changed nick - I forgot there was a Trinity, Texas)
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To: EternalVigilance
Millions of pro-lifers will bolt the GOP if it abandons its prolife core.

In other words, you're saying that pro-life voters would prefer the totally unacceptable Democrat position on abortion to a less-than-perfect Republican position.

Last time I checked, being prolife doesn't require one to be a complete idiot.

A pro-abortion Republican Party would very quickly be a dead party.

Like I said, go out and actually win a political campaign before flapping your jaws at me about what wins and loses elections, boy.

If you want a pro-abortion party, go over to the Dems, Poohbah.

I'm prolife. Unfortunately, I also have an IQ greater than a carrot, which means that I don't throw a temper tantrum if I don't get my own way each and every time.

1,370 posted on 03/12/2005 1:57:59 PM PST by Poohbah ("Hee Haw" was supposed to be a television show, not a political movement.)
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To: EternalVigilance

Dole was kicking and screaming up to the convention. He didn't finally give in until at the convention. By the end of the primary's he had the nomination cinched, as the convention of today is nothing more than a show for the faithful. So someone who did not embrace the prolife pland did make it to be nominated.


1,371 posted on 03/12/2005 1:59:23 PM PST by joesbucks
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To: Trinity_Tx

There you go again. Blaming pro-lifers for the continuation of abortion.

You guys just don't learn many new tricks, do ya...

If you spent half as much time going after the people who are responsible for the vast majority of abortions, (which don't fall within your beloved 'exceptions', and which are done simply as a form of gruesome birth control) as you do chastising pro-lifers, maybe we would get somewhere.


1,372 posted on 03/12/2005 2:00:45 PM PST by EternalVigilance (Taglinus FreeRepublicus: An awesome demonstration of the fact that Free Republic is awash in genius!)
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To: Trinity_Tx

I wonder what will happen to IVF clinics. Lots of 'abortion' going on in there. I have not been able to convince someone that a fertilized egg is just as much a child as an baby about to be born.


1,373 posted on 03/12/2005 2:03:15 PM PST by cyborg (http://mentalmumblings.blogspot.com/)
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To: joesbucks

Kemp was a better candidate but Dole held all the strings in the GOP and got all the funding. He made sure we got another four years of Clinton with his campaigning as I sat the election out rather than vote for some big spending
GOP moron. Even if I had known how bad Clinton was in 96 I'm not sure I could have voted for Dole just on principle.


1,374 posted on 03/12/2005 2:04:12 PM PST by John Lenin (A little anarchy and it's curtains)
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To: joesbucks

Let me assure you, it was people just like are posting on this thread who got us to that point.


1,375 posted on 03/12/2005 2:04:30 PM PST by EternalVigilance (Taglinus FreeRepublicus: An awesome demonstration of the fact that Free Republic is awash in genius!)
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To: cyborg

How about the contraceptive pill that allows fertilization of the egg, but prevents it from attaching to the uterus wall, thus being flushed during menstration. Commonly used contraceptive by thousands if not millions of women who would no sooner enter an abortion clinic than to....well date me. Yet month after month, a fertilized egg already beginning the process of life and cell division cannot attach itself to the uternine wall. And slowly the life drifts down the canal and finds it's final resting place.... well it gets graphic.


1,376 posted on 03/12/2005 2:09:11 PM PST by joesbucks
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To: EternalVigilance

The good thing about election 2004 and the values vote is it sends a message to the RINOS that they are not really wanted on a national level in the GOP. McCain will do a nose dive in the south if he runs in 2008, thank God !


1,377 posted on 03/12/2005 2:10:36 PM PST by John Lenin (A little anarchy and it's curtains)
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To: Trinity_Tx

I once read a great book called "No Compromise". In fact, it's on my bookshelf.

Compromise is only acceptable for certain things. The compromises you seem to endorse - you can kill babies if they're only so old, you can kill babies if they're the result of incest, you can kill babies if their father is a rapist - are not acceptable. Killing the unborn, in any case when the mother will not die without it, is murder. You can't compromise on murder.


1,378 posted on 03/12/2005 2:12:20 PM PST by Irish Rose (Some people march to the beat of a different drummer. And some people tango!)
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To: Peach

bump


1,379 posted on 03/12/2005 2:13:33 PM PST by meema
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To: EternalVigilance
Pro lifers really didn't advance a strong pro life candidate in 1996. And many voted for Dole in the primaries anyhow.

But then again, where was Alan in 2004 during the primaries. Illinois hadn't placed the phone call yet and he sat out the primary because either he was scared or he bought into the sales pitch by Bush and Team that GWB was the evangelical choice. Alan was rarely above the radar in 2004 until Illinois.

1,380 posted on 03/12/2005 2:14:15 PM PST by joesbucks
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