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To: rcocean
If Pickett's charge had succeeded, today it would be viewed as audacious and brilliant. If Nelson's unconventional attack at Trafalgar had failed, today he would be viewed as a bumbler.

During WWII both sides made numerous costly blunders. For instance, the Japanese should have attacked oil storage facilities at Pearl Harbor and pressed the attack on Pearl Harbor until they out of ammunition and aviation fuel. There was more petroleum at Pearl Harbor on December 8, 1941 than in Japan.

Japanese incompetence in the field of cyphers was criminal.

The truly unnecessary attack was the Phillipines, which advanced absolutely no strategic purpose, rather it allowed MacAuthur to claim a public relations victory by redeeming his pledge to return.

57 posted on 03/10/2005 7:36:34 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (Deadcheck the embeds first.)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

An interesting point. Why blame MacArthur? We invaded the Phillipines because FDR, Stimson, Marshall and King wanted to. MacArthur was just in charge of SWPA.


67 posted on 03/10/2005 7:41:24 AM PST by rcocean
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets
For instance, the Japanese should have attacked oil storage facilities at Pearl Harbor

How?

It is my understanding that the vast quantities of fuel at Pearl are primarily stored in huge underground caverns, far below the ground.

70 posted on 03/10/2005 7:42:41 AM PST by Michael.SF. (Someday I will fondly look back on the day Hillary's career ended. Starting tomorrow, I hope.)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

"The truly unnecessary attack was the Phillipines, which advanced absolutely no strategic purpose, rather it allowed MacAuthur to claim a public relations victory by redeeming his pledge to return."

While it is not a strategic mission, I think we were duty bound to invade the Philipines to liberate U.S. POW's being held there since 1942 and to liberate Phillipinos, who were citizens of a U.S. territory and were actively resisting the Japanese.


79 posted on 03/10/2005 7:51:10 AM PST by Airborne1986 (Well, You can do what you want to us, but we're not going to sit here while you badmouth the U.S.A.)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

I kinda liked the liberation of the Philippines. My mother and father were freed from Los Banos the same day the flag was raised on Suribachi. Two weeks earlier my grandfather and uncle were liberated from Bilibid and my grandmother, aunt, uncle, and cousin were liberated from Santo Tomas.

I say "Thanks Doug!"


97 posted on 03/10/2005 8:14:35 AM PST by Andyman (The world should not be ruled by those who are most easily offended.)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets
It is a bit grating to hear all these Monday AM QBs on these issues. Do you mean that we made errors in a world war? How could it be? ;-)

How about:
Omaha Beach
Market Garden
The Bulge
Diepe
Hurtgen (where my Dad spent 6 weeks)
Split command in the Pacific
Falaise
Your points about Pearl

Interesting read, fun to discuss, hope to learn from, but anything more than that is ridiculous.
121 posted on 03/10/2005 8:49:52 AM PST by schu
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets
Your point is well taken.

Side note: Few people today know that General Custer was a key part in defeating Pickett's charge.

169 posted on 03/10/2005 11:18:34 AM PST by Yasotay
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