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To: Gumption
No offense intended.

No offense taken.

Do you ever wonder about the rules which regulate and sustain the matter. Or the mechanics that enable planetary bodies to gravitational form solar systems. Or the way nuclear chemistry results in an energy source that provides the impetus for life.

Sir Isaac Newton was thoroughly convinced that the laws of physics are a clear demonstration of a benevolent Creator. The universes potential is realized to the most staggeringly minute degrees to sustain life on our planet. We can test the unusuality of these tolerances to exist in our universe.

I give more credence to that anthropomorphic Creator thingy.

143 posted on 03/09/2005 4:20:16 PM PST by bondserv (Sincerity with God is the most powerful instigator for change! † [Check out my profile page])
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To: bondserv
Do you ever wonder about the rules which regulate and sustain the matter. Or the mechanics that enable planetary bodies to gravitational form solar systems. Or the way nuclear chemistry results in an energy source that provides the impetus for life.

Sure I wonder (not in those exact words though) But I reconcile those thoughts by coming to the conclusion that it was always that way. Gravity, matter, energy, cycles (the whole shabang) has always been there (here/everywhere). If I believed the laws of physics only existed, as we know them, at the whim of a higher being then I would have to believe they could be changed by the same whim. That would require a leap of faith that I, as of yet, have not been blessed with.

I would have to see evidence (for example) that all of the sudden an action no longer has an equal but opposite reaction anymore in order to believe what you do. And if that happened, boy would I believe. You betcha.

153 posted on 03/09/2005 4:44:41 PM PST by Gumption
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To: bondserv
.... The universes potential is realized to the most staggeringly minute degrees to sustain life on our planet. We can test the unusuality of these tolerances to exist in our universe.

I give more credence to that anthropomorphic Creator thingy.


You have to be a little bit careful with that one. You can say, "Isn't is amazing that we are just far away enough from the sun, with just the right amount of oxygen, nitrogen, carbon dioxide, water, and carbon-based stuff to sustain life?"

While the mirror of that argument is that "Of course there is just the right amount of oxygen, nitrogen, carbon dioxide, water, and carbon-based stuff to sustain life because life evolved to exist optimally in the conditions that were present."

Of course, then we need to test that hypothesis by trying to locate life elsewhere that has optimally adapted to those alternate conditions.

I am a believer in that anthropomorphic Creator thingy, also. I take it on faith that He believes in me...

I want to look honestly at this issue. Maybe I am naive, but I have no problem at this time believing in a Creator that builds in mechanisms to make living things change, adapt, and change some more. I believe He sent his Son to earth to become a man, and be sacrificed to atone for all of us sinners.

I would be nice to examine the hypotheses, theories, evidence and logic to see if there is some conclusion, or if it is only competing articles of faith.
169 posted on 03/09/2005 5:07:09 PM PST by NonLinear ("If not instantaneous, then extraordinarily fast" - Galileo re. speed of light. circa 1600)
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