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To: metacognative
His name is John Marburger and he was speaking at a conference of some sort. Patrick Henry posted a link to it a month or so ago. I'll try to find it.

Don't pin your hopes on ID, it is doomed to fail. I'm not saying that with glee or malice. If ID begins to get a few judicial victories under its belt, the scientific community will wake up and squash it. The reason they will squash it is because ID has no basis in science. To force through the courts, something that scientists and biology instructors do not accept goes against academic freedom. In no other academic field would it be acceptable for untrained outsiders to force the professional insiders how to teach their field of study. The inmates cannot run the asylum.

There is no conflict between evolution and a belief in God. There are more effective way's to combat the moral and cultural relativism of the left than through ID.

104 posted on 03/09/2005 3:08:23 PM PST by ValenB4
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To: ValenB4

ID is not doomed to fail. I'd say the opposite. ID is always going to be there. It is the description of orderliness inherent in life, and that nothing can really account for that orderliness except a designer. It's basis is in mathematics and observation.

There is a conflict between evolution and God. Even for catholic Christians, any evolution that posits the naturalistic development of mind/spirit in man is in great conflict.

I personally think that all evolution must logically boil down to that conclusion, but there are still some holdouts who don't think so, so I'll give them the benefit of the doubt.


237 posted on 03/09/2005 6:41:28 PM PST by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of it!)
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To: ValenB4
There is no conflict between evolution and a belief in God.

But....

...is there one between 'E' and JESUS?

396 posted on 03/10/2005 5:47:25 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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