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Mexico seeks protection for illegals
THE WASHINGTON TIMES ^ | Jerry Seper

Posted on 03/08/2005 10:35:34 AM PST by Grendel9

The Mexican government has asked U.S. officials to ensure illegal-immigration protesters patrolling the Arizona border next month do not abuse Mexican nationals caught illegally entering the United States. In a diplomatic note to U.S. officials, Geronimo Gutierrez, undersecretary for North American affairs at Mexico's Foreign Ministry, suggested it was "very probable" the protesters could violate the rights of illegal aliens, and that they must be monitored. "What there is concern about is that some of these actions that could be taken could be in violation of federal and state laws to the detriment of Mexican citizens," Mr. Gutierrez said. "Mexico doesn't want the rights of its citizens transgressed...

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Mexico
KEYWORDS: aliens; borders; illegalaliens; immigration; mexico; migration
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To: yellowdoghunter; Grendel9
I would say something but this topic seems to get pulled a lot on this board. I had my first reply ever pulled on a topic concerning this. So, I do not know the whole story behind it, but don't be surprised if this one is pulled too. For some reason, defending your homeland is a no-no.

None of us know the story behind your post being pulled except you.

If your post was an extrapolation on the broad brush statement (spin) of yours bolded above, that could be the reason.

G9, from the article:

Geronimo Gutierrez, undersecretary for North American affairs at Mexico's Foreign Ministry, suggested it was "very probable" the protesters could violate the rights of illegal aliens, and that they must be monitored. "What there is concern about is that some of these actions that could be taken could be in violation of federal and state laws to the detriment of Mexican citizens," Mr. Gutierrez said. "Mexico doesn't want the rights of its citizens transgressed...

My take on how Geronimo's statement should be said back to him:

..."very probable" the protesters criminal migrants could violate the rights Laws of illegal aliens The United States of America , and that they must be monitored. "What there is concern about is that some of these actions (of Criminal Migrants) that could be taken could be in violation of federal and state laws (of The United States of America) to the detriment of Mexican American citizen's (safety) ," Mr. Gutierrez American Citizens said say. "Mexico America doesn't want the rights Laws of its (sic) citizens Country transgressed...

61 posted on 03/08/2005 3:49:30 PM PST by Syncro
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To: Grendel9

Be safe. Go home.


62 posted on 03/08/2005 3:52:21 PM PST by doug from upland (Ray Charles --- a great musician and safer driver than Ted Kennedy)
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To: Spirited

The 1917 Mexican Constitution says American's cannot own land within 30 miles of beaches or borders. Be very careful on buying land or land trusts with mexican partners.


63 posted on 03/08/2005 3:59:12 PM PST by edcoil (Reality doesn't say much - doesn't need too)
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To: HiJinx
In related news, MALDEF has filed a $32 Million lawsuit against Arizona rancher Roger Barnett and Cochise County Sheriff Larry Dever, alleging they abused 14 illegal immigrants on Barnett's property and that Dever did nothing about it.

MALDEF is suspect from the start

See MALDEF - Enemy Of American Democracy

-- and --

Critics of immigration law turn attention to election mandates (MALDEF at it again with AZ Prop 200)

If only the state and the feds would pass a law that if you file a civil suit and lose you must pay all court costs and defendants legal fees. A lawyer has three such cases in his history and he/she is called before the attorney's disciplinary board to explain he/she should not be disciplined for Barristry.

64 posted on 03/08/2005 4:00:46 PM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: doug from upland
LOL! Now, doug that was the epitome of succinctity...

In a nutshell.

65 posted on 03/08/2005 4:02:57 PM PST by Syncro
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To: Syncro

"Succinctity" is as good as "misunderestimate." :)


66 posted on 03/08/2005 4:10:49 PM PST by doug from upland (Ray Charles --- a great musician and safer driver than Ted Kennedy)
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To: soundandvision
Fox simply wants to get rid of its surplus population of criminals and the mentally ill and dump them on us. It is not our responsibility if Mexico overbreeds.

Any politician who promotes or supports illegal aliens is corrupt, blackmailed, bribed, hates this country, believe in One World, and/or mentally ill.

67 posted on 03/08/2005 4:20:50 PM PST by Dante3
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To: doug from upland
Dr. Zoo has throughly disseminated and dissected Bush2's new word "misunderestimate."

I'll ping him and get his take on it. He's doing a Personality Transplanttm right now, but he should be through soon...

68 posted on 03/08/2005 4:24:16 PM PST by Syncro
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To: RexBeach

Who knows what the Bush team has agreed to with Fox...Likely something similar to what the 1st Bush did with Nafta (Canada and Mexico) during his term...

Would seem Fox wouldn't keep pushing this issue unless he knows something we don't...


69 posted on 03/08/2005 4:28:38 PM PST by Iscool
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To: RexBeach

This is the New World Order, The New World Government, Wake up, the Bushes' are part of it, the Eletist Group!


70 posted on 03/08/2005 4:40:21 PM PST by 26lemoncharlie (Sit nomen Dómini benedíctum,Ex hoc nunc, et usque in sæculum! per ómnia saecula saeculórum)
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To: KiloLima

Your reference to California brought to mind an item
from Victor Davis Hanson's web in which he mentions that
CA is now spending $450 million just to incarcerate the
illegals. This in a bankrupt state! Mexico gladly exports
its millions to the U.S. because of the millions they send
home. We are now facing bankrupt school districts, insolvent hospitals, an influx of drugs, disease, and
demands on an overburdened social service system. We've
not YET heard from the terrorists who may be crossing
with the others. We also suffer from a failure of
leadership -- from Bush and Congress -- to protect our
borders from foreign invasion as mandated by the Constitution. They are TOTALLY out of touch with the vast
majority (last poll 70%) of Americans who are enraged to
see our sovereignty destroyed as we become a dumping
ground for third world illegals. The sunami of illegals
cannot possibly be assimilated or absorbed in any
rational way. Bush may have the dubious distinction of
being the President who lost the Mexican War (1845-48)
after the first was reversed. And lost it by surrender--
a euphemism for amnesty (guest worker program).


71 posted on 03/08/2005 4:56:14 PM PST by T.L.Sink (stopew)
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To: Grendel9

Is there anyone that honestly believes Bush will do ANYTHING to cause his best bud, mr. v. fox any concern? what will anyone do to worry Bush, tell him they won't vote for him next time? No one in any state of federal government will do anything to stop the border crossings to the south. NO ONE ! If private citizens do stop them, most of them will be put in jail (the american) and ALL THEIR BELONGINGS WILL BE CONFESCATED. This will stop the private person because we will end up just defending our own property and the heck with anyone else. Brothrs and sisters, we do NOT own our own government anymore, they, it, own's us.
God Bless, KennyBob


72 posted on 03/08/2005 5:17:57 PM PST by texasreb (Just watching this thing keep rolling on by.)
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To: Cactuspete

Perhaps Mexicos best solution to protecting their citizens would be to place their army on their side of the fence to turn back those who would transgress upon our soil.

Until the Mexican government takes a part in stopping the illegal immigration to the US, the situation is only going to become worse. Until Mexico fixes their corrupt government, and failing economy and productive structure, border tensions will only rise.

Until Americans are permitted to enter freely and safely into Mexico and purchase their cheap land, and employ their cheap labor to build an economic infrastructure, Mexico will continue to be a third world cesspool.

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Well said Pete...


73 posted on 03/08/2005 5:53:20 PM PST by ApesForEvolution (I just took a Muhammad and wiped my Jihadist with Mein Koran...come and get me nutbags.)
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To: Spirited

I, too, have wondered whether discussion is barred because this site backs the Bush doctrine on Mexico, as blindly on everything else. It seems to imply that the only place to defend the US is elsewhere in the world rather than on our own soil.

That principle is utterly baffling and will, as Hillary surmises, and Rush warns, earn that fiend a seat in the oval office.

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It's into the New Media that matters, the Conservative Media...it's getting out there now.


74 posted on 03/08/2005 5:56:14 PM PST by ApesForEvolution (I just took a Muhammad and wiped my Jihadist with Mein Koran...come and get me nutbags.)
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To: ArmyTeach

God bless Rush Limbaugh...


75 posted on 03/08/2005 5:57:02 PM PST by ApesForEvolution (I just took a Muhammad and wiped my Jihadist with Mein Koran...come and get me nutbags.)
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To: texasreb

I wonder: has anyone ever tried taking a page from the environmentalists' handbook? They seem to have a fair amount of success suing the government to enforce environmental regulations. Why couldn't we do the same with regard to immigration law? I'm sure we could find a friendly court somewhere to file suit in.


76 posted on 03/08/2005 6:22:47 PM PST by Fatalist
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To: Fatalist

BTTT

That's why we're documenting what's going on.


77 posted on 03/08/2005 6:31:33 PM PST by ApesForEvolution (I just took a Muhammad and wiped my Jihadist with Mein Koran...come and get me nutbags.)
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To: HiJinx; Grendel9

This is unbelievable. Who the hell does Mexico think she is?

Something is going on...


78 posted on 03/08/2005 7:31:17 PM PST by TheSpottedOwl (Free Mexico!)
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To: yellowdoghunter
If all of us who care and know enough truth on this issue don't speak up and defend this nation under seige then there will not be anything left to defend soon enough.

I will offer my own line of disgust on this subject and it starts with the President who loves to promote our southern criminal element and refuses to use good common sense. The President is a blithering Idiot for pursueing this un supportable policy that will ultimately put every American Family in Jeopardy. If his policies continue the way they are going he must be IMPEACHED and removed from Office. Your way of life will cease and be relegated to the garbage heap. This is not what the vast majority of Freedom loving Americans voted for. We have been short shrifted and sold out to a tin horn dictator. He is as much a criminal as "TACO BOY IS". His plan is your demise and time is ticking off the clock for you to wake up and see him for what he really is A STOOGE OF THE NEW WORLD ORDER!

79 posted on 03/08/2005 7:53:51 PM PST by winker
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To: Fatalist

The U.S. District Court in Tucson is friendly to our cause. They upheld Prop. 200 against a challenge by MALDEF. That court also has sent a lot of slave-traders to prison.

Mrs. HJ sat on the jury for one such trial. UAV video and surveillance transcripts played a large part in the conviction of the person running a drop-house.


80 posted on 03/08/2005 9:34:12 PM PST by HiJinx (They're not vigilantes, they're undocument Border Patrol agents.)
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