Posted on 03/06/2005 5:44:25 PM PST by 4.1O dana super trac pak
Remember the Alamo flag?
More than a decade ago, just as Texas officials stepped up efforts for Mexico to return the only remaining banner known to have flown at the Battle of the Alamo, the Mexicans said they lost it.
But recently, a reporter found the flag once more on display in Mexicos' National History Museum, a faded scrap of silk hung in a glass case amid 19th-century rifles and portraits. The once-blue fabric is faded to dirty white. Its fringe is intact, an eagle still spread across the middle over the words "God and Liberty."
"It's well taken care of," said Nina Serratos, a museum official in Mexico City. "The museum restored it."
The banner of volunteer Alamo defenders from New Orleans, a cherished bit of sacred cloth in the secular religion of Texana, is no closer to coming home than when the Mexican Army took it away 169 years ago.
(Excerpt) Read more at dallasnews.com ...
For some reason I thoughts the 1824 flag of Mexico flew over the Alamo. Never heard of this one..
I see that you are the Texas 'pinger'
There's a picture of this flag in the book "A Time to Stand", by Walter Lord. It has been in storage in Mexico; I guess they finally will display it?
According to Lord's research, he thinks this flag (brought by some Louisiana volunteers) was the only flag flying over the Alamo at the time it fell.
They say of several flags that flew, this is the only one that survived the battle.
FYI - the link doesn't work for me
See post #6. Getting it fixed.
Mexico has some serious problems. The other side of the border is dangerous and becoming more dangerous by the day. Too many bad guys on the other side of the border. Unfortunately, those same bad guys have been able to come here and organize. Without little challenge they have been able to do so. It's going to get worse.
How about saving the border debate for the numerous threads on the subject? Hijacking this one isn't necessary.
The Mexicans won that battle, so they're entitled to keep it if they want to. I say that as a proud Texan.
I just got back from the border. We have a conflict with Mexico. A battle with Mexico. What the hell do you think the issue was that led to Mexico obtaining the flag that's the subject of this thread? A border debate maybe?
Oh, by the way, the next time you see me post something you don't apreciate do yourself a favor and forget the "hijacking this" thread garbage. This ain't your sandbox bud. I'll post what I damn well please subject to JimRob's pleasure.
How about we treat the 20 million ILLEGALS as the invaders THEY are?
Yeah, illegal Americans in Mexico.
You are not serious are you?
Very serious. Did I say it was a bad thing? Nope. But the war was fought over land. Mexico didn't like that American farmers were coming in with slaves. Eventually, they tried doing something about it...and lost.
Flag's battle never ends (Alamo flag)Excerpt:Remember the Alamo flag?
More than a decade ago, just as Texas officials stepped up efforts for Mexico to return the only remaining banner known to have flown at the Battle of the Alamo, the Mexicans said they'd lost it.
But recently, a reporter found the flag once more on display in Mexico's National History Museum, a faded scrap of silk hung in a glass case amid 19th-century rifles and portraits. The once-blue fabric is faded to dirty white. Its fringe is intact, an eagle still spread across the middle over the words "God & Liberty."
"It's well taken care of," said Nina Serratos, a museum official in Mexico City. "The museum restored it."
The banner of volunteer Alamo defenders from New Orleans, a cherished bit of sacred cloth in the secular religion of Texana, is no closer to coming home than when the Mexican army took it away 169 years ago.
But spokesmen for Texas Gov. Rick Perry and Mexican President Vicente Fox, in answer to questions from The Dallas Morning News, indicated the door might be open to a deal that would return the Alamo flag to Texas.
"The governor has discussions with Mexican officials all the time," said Perry spokesman Robert Black. "I'm sure that at the appropriate time the governor will broach this.
"It's certainly something that Governor Perry would like to see back in the Texas archives."
Said Agustín Gutiérrez Canet, a spokesman for Mr. Fox: "If the United States has some Mexican flags, perhaps there could be an exchange. But that's a hypothetical idea."
As it happens, reciprocity is not so hypothetical a notion. Texas' archives has the battle flags from Mexico's Toluca, Guerrero and Matamoros battalions, captured in the decisive Battle of San Jacinto.
The state has offered them to Mexico since 1995 and discussions about exchanging flags have taken place since 1934.
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Mexico's failure to return the Alamo Flag when we gave them back their flags says a lot about Mexico, all of it bad. Texans don't need to whine. If and when Mexico is secure enough in its identity and palce in the world to return the Alamo flag, great. Until then they keep it not because they are strong enough to keep it, but because they are too weak to return Truman's gesture.
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