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Posted on 03/05/2005 5:06:15 PM PST by nwctwx
Edited on 03/29/2005 8:49:43 PM PST by Jim Robinson. [history]
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CIA sends terror suspects abroad for interrogation
White House says U.S. does not 'export torture'
http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/03/06/cia.interrogation/index.html
The "Im still trying to catch up on 300 posts from thread # 24" Piper
Important Freep mail
Same here
Breaking: Chemical leak forces evacuation of 6,000 people
(Utah)
http://www.sltrib.com/nationworld/ci_2598281
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Hydrogen balloons pose fire hazard (Salem, OR)
Salem Fire Department and Salem Police Department are investigating a series of homemade hydrogen balloons that were let loose and came perilously close to starting significant fires.
Hydrogen is highly flammable and could cause major damage because of its combustibility and the unseasonable dryness of the grass and brush in the area.
At about 8:15 p.m. Sunday, the remains of a homemade balloon were found burning on the roof of a commercial structure at 325 Patterson St. NW, said Deputy Fire Marshal Bill Holmstrom.
Firefighters climbed onto the roof of the building to remove the burning material and ensure the structure was not on fire, Holmstrom said.
Two other discarded balloons were found on the property, and Salem police officers have responded to other reports of the balloons in the West Salem area in recent days.
Anyone with information about the balloons should contact Salem Fire Department at (503) 588-6245 or Salem Police Department at (503) 588-6230.
http://159.54.226.83/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050307/NEWS/503070317/1001
weird coinkydink considering the link I sent you on Utah hmmm...
Why can't the US find bin Laden?
By Andrew Tully
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/GC08Ak01.html
WASHINGTON - US President George W Bush says he has no illusion about the difficulties his government faces in trying to catch Osama bin Laden. According to Bush, finding bin Laden and thwarting his plans are "the greatest challenge of our day".
He highlighted the urgency, saying: "Recently we learned that Osama bin Laden has urged the [Iraq-based suspected] terrorist [Abu Musab al-] Zarqawi to form a group to conduct attacks outside Iraq, including here in the United States. We're on a constant hunt for bin Laden. We're keeping the pressure on him, keeping him in hiding. And today Zarqawi understands that coalition and Iraqi troops are on a constant hunt for him as well."
But the hunt for bin Laden so far has been fruitless. Two months ago, General Pervez Musharraf, the president of Pakistan, said his trail had "gone cold". And on March 1, General John Abizaid, the man in charge of the US part of the search, cautioned Congress that success is not guaranteed.
Kenneth Allard says he wholeheartedly agrees with Abizaid's assessment. Allard, a retired US Army colonel who served as an intelligence officer, tells RFE/RL that a manhunt is not the right job for an army.
"Military forces typically do not engage in the apprehension of individuals," Allard says. "Our stock in trade is taking down a regime. It's like looking for individual grains of sand, when your objective is to shovel out a foundation. We do a great job of foundation digging. We don't do a very good job of finding individual grains with names on them."
But Allard says it is likely that US special forces and paramilitary personnel of the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA), are part of the search. He says they are trained not to fight pitched battles but to undertake missions such as the hunt for bin Laden and are prepared to fight only in emergencies.
The next question, Allard says, is what happens if bin Laden is eventually captured? He says if bin Laden is killed, many Muslims probably would revere him as a martyr. If he is captured alive, he could speak at his trial to rally his fellow militants.
Either way, according to Allard, Americans can expect bin Laden's followers to mount vengeance strikes in the US.
But Allard says this probably would leave Americans no more vulnerable to attack than they are now. And he adds that failing to capture bin Laden is not an option, and that the US is better off if bin Laden is dead.
"I would much rather have the dead Osama as a potential martyr than a live Osama running around right now," Allard says. "Because the most powerful symbol that he exerts to his followers is that he has been able to defy the United States. He's been able to pull off [the attacks of September 11, 2001] and effectively get away with it. Symbols really matter."
But symbols have limited value, according to Nathan Brown, who specializes in Middle Eastern affairs at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace, a private policy-research center in Washington.
Brown points out that the US is not just fighting al-Qaeda but many additional groups with at best only a loose affiliation with bin Laden's organization. Now that bin Laden has inspired them, he says, they can act autonomously.
"Capturing or killing [bin Laden] wouldn't end the problem that he's come to symbolize," Brown says. "What he managed to do was to get disparate groups together and get them to focus on attacking Western targets rather than their own governments. But it's unclear that he's really knitted those disparate groups into one single movement. And so cutting it off at the top is not going to completely end what those various groups do."
Brown says he prefers to sidestep the question of whether the US would benefit more from a dead bin Laden than a living one. Instead, he says: "Putting [bin Laden] on trial raises all kinds of difficult issues, because you are giving him a platform by which he can address his various constituencies. And he can speak fairly effectively to those constituencies. So in a sense, a trial would be a very mixed blessing for the United States."
Brown says that while he expects capturing bin Laden would have no immediate effect, it might pay off in the long term. It could discourage some young Muslim men from joining militant groups.
What about Americam militiamen, are they not hiding under the guise of distrusting their government?
i.e. McVeigh
I love Flagstaff, always wanted to go to Sedona too
Nice find Ian! BTTT!
Bump and gratitude you are fast becoming a legend here SV!
Al-Zarqawi still leading the fight in Iraq: website
http://www.politicalgateway.com/news/read.html?id=3138
DUBAI, March 7 (AFP) - The most wanted man in Iraq, Jordanian-born militant Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, is in good health and leading operations, his group said in a statement Monday, as Iraqi and US troops stepped up efforts to find him.
"Our sheikh Abu Musab, may God watch over him, is in good health. He is preparing for battles and is leading the fight in Iraq," read a statement from the Organization of Al-Qaeda of Jihad published on an Islamist website.
The authenticity of the message could not immediately be verified.
"You will soon hear a speech from our sheikh," it said.
Since Saturday, commandos from Iraq's interior ministry and US troops have closed off entrances to Samarra and launched raids in the city and surrounding areas in search for suspects that might lead them to Zarqawi.
The Iraqi government on Monday released new pictures of the militant, who has a 25 million bounty on his head and is blamed for the worst bombings in Iraq, showing him bearded and in conversation with an individual.
The Organisation of Al-Qaeda of Jihad statement said the pictures had been in the possession of an Al-Qaeda information section worker who was killed in combat.
"Our brother died as a martyr and the pictures fell into the hands of the infidels," it said.
I can attest to hundreds of EOM posts I saved from his beginning days! What a joke, speechless on EOM (Egloonerousmaniac)
The only A.R.E. group I ever belonged to was Edgar Cayce ;)
What is that 'new' AIDS that strikes much quicker?
4.3
5.1
5.2
Also increasing in size and they are not little!
Sooooooo good to see you Jill!
Saif al-Adel He is also known as Ibrahim Al-Madani and he knows Arabic.
Al-Adel, an Egyptian national whose real name is Muhammad Ibrahim Makkawi (or Muhamad Ibrahim Makkawi), is currently believed to the operations commander of Al-Qaeda. He was a colonel in Egyptian Special Forces before joining with the Mujahideen in Afghanistan to fight the Soviet invasion.
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