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Activist: Assault On Christians Exposes Homosexual Movements Violent Heart
Christian Underground ^ | Mar. 4, 2005

Posted on 03/04/2005 4:38:27 PM PST by Lindykim

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To: jcb8199

Thanks for the link...lots of info I was unaware of.


61 posted on 03/04/2005 7:14:44 PM PST by Just A Nobody
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To: Lindykim

Thank you for your post. Obviously, I'm from Wisconsin, and this is the first I heard of this story. The media is so liberal here, especially in Milwaukee. If only those homos knew what they were giving up just for their sexual preference. I commend the Christian group, they were only doing what they are supposed to be doing - being fishers of men. It's not hate, rather compassion, that this group is out there. As far as I'm concerned, leading someone to Jesus Christ and eternal life from sin and damnation is the same as saving someone from a burning car.


62 posted on 03/04/2005 7:21:31 PM PST by Right in Wisconsin
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To: RaceBannon
Then why have appointed preachers if we are all supposed to be doing it?

There is a saying, "Fools rush in where angels fear to tread." I learned that the hard way about some things.

By the way, why did Lot go to Sodom? I don't feel like looking it up. I went and checked your other bible citations. Was it to preach?

63 posted on 03/04/2005 7:25:30 PM PST by Aliska
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To: Fish Hunter
The Lord Jesus forgave the repentant sinner that the Pharisees were going to stone. The key here is the sinner was REPENTANT.

First of all the Pharisees were NOT going to stone her.
Under Roman law they had no authority to impose the death penalty on anyone.
They brought her before Jesus to test Him when it came to the law of Moses. They were trying to entrap Him.

Secondly nowhere does the passage say the adulteress repented.

Jesus just said because there was nobody left there to condemn her,(He shamed them and they left) neither would He.

It doesn't say she repented and so Jesus forgave her.

The larger message of this passage was about the hypocrisy of the Pharisees who thought they were holy enough to run around pointing their fat fingers at "sinners" they were good enough to condemn in God's name.

64 posted on 03/04/2005 7:27:44 PM PST by Jorge
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To: RaceBannon
I never mentioned ONE PERSON on this thread as being a sinner worse than any other, so, you seem to be misjudging me quite a bit here.

If I have then I apologize.
I thought you were defending the actions of the people in the article who certainly are singling out one group of sinners as worse than others.

So you agree that these people are probably misguided in their "homosexuals go to hell" approach to evangelism?

65 posted on 03/04/2005 7:37:13 PM PST by Jorge
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To: Aliska
Whatever answer I come up with is really my own opinion.

I was with you until this statement. Scripture is clear and unambiguous.

66 posted on 03/04/2005 7:40:52 PM PST by Raycpa
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To: Aliska
I don't believe in "confronting" people about their sins

Sure you do.

67 posted on 03/04/2005 7:44:20 PM PST by Raycpa
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To: Jorge

0When Jesus had raised Himself up and saw no one but the woman, He said to her,[a] "Woman, where are those accusers of yours?[b] Has no one condemned you?"

11She said, "No one, Lord."

And Jesus said to her, "Neither do I condemn you; go and[c] sin no more."

12Then Jesus spoke to them again, saying, "I am the light of the world. He who follows Me shall not walk in darkness, but have the light of life."


68 posted on 03/04/2005 7:49:48 PM PST by Raycpa
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To: Raycpa
I was with you until this statement. Scripture is clear and unambiguous.

I meant it was my opinion according to my understanding of my religion. That doesn't necessarily mean it is right 100% of the time. No two people on the planet agree exactly on all points just exactly what the Christian religion is about. The last day they were in 100% agreement was on the Day of Pentecost. Then the disputes began. The bible has a fairly good record of disagreements among the apostles themselves.

69 posted on 03/04/2005 7:53:12 PM PST by Aliska
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To: Raycpa
When Jesus had raised Himself up and saw no one but the woman, He said to her,[a] "Woman, where are those accusers of yours?[b] Has no one condemned you?"

Thank you. These are the passages I was refering to.

70 posted on 03/04/2005 7:55:33 PM PST by Jorge
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To: Raycpa
Sure you do.

How so? You don't even know me.

71 posted on 03/04/2005 7:56:08 PM PST by Aliska
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To: Jorge
Jorge,

I am not going comment on this passage. I think I was correct, if not I will admit it. But I do not see the point served by going there.

Think through what you are saying:

By your definition of sin in an earlier post you could lie, cheat, steal, sodomize, etc. as much as you wanted, and Jesus would forgive you for no other reason than the fact you were not a hypocrite and He is a nice guy ?

I am just a foot soldier for Christ. I don't think you trust my words so I would go talk to a pastor or a priest to get their take on this. Ask him this:

"Will God forgive my sins if I do NOT repent of them?'

Take Care and Good Night,

F H
72 posted on 03/04/2005 7:57:52 PM PST by Fish Hunter
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To: Aliska

you must be joking.

There is no middle ground.

It either acceptable or unacceptable.

It USED to be a PRIVATE issue best left in PRIVATE lives, but now we have entered the realm of public endorsement via judicial fiat. The middle ground is gone.

Even civil unions are no longer a viable compromise. (especially since cheep cohabitation agreements have become more well known and available by form services) States are no including civil union prohibitions because judges have expressed their intentions to bypass Marriage Amendments by simply making marriage without the "m" word, marriage lite.

If anything, the anti-homosexual debate has been left to the religious realm too long and the secular arguments have not been provactive enough.


73 posted on 03/04/2005 8:04:37 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: Aliska
How so? You don't even know me.

Well, first off you are calling many on here for their sins. Second, if someone abused your children you would confront them on thier sins. What you mean to say is there are some sins that you don't feel comfortable confronting others on.

74 posted on 03/04/2005 8:04:56 PM PST by Raycpa
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To: Jorge
These are the passages I was refering to.

Did you miss the "go an sin no more" line ?

75 posted on 03/04/2005 8:05:39 PM PST by Raycpa
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To: Aliska

Every MSM network show with a homosexual character or pro-homo reference has been INSIDE your home to indoctrinate you and yours to the touchy feely pro-homosexual mindset.


76 posted on 03/04/2005 8:06:13 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: Aliska
Even the more liberal readers of the bible acknowledge that Scripture says homosexuality is wrong. What they claim is that scripture was wrong not that we interpret it wrong.

That said, the bible has consistently spoke against fornication. From the time of Noah, the Mosaic Covenant, Peter in Acts and Jesus. Its really no debatable. The debate is over whether we have continuing revelation.

77 posted on 03/04/2005 8:09:22 PM PST by Raycpa
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To: Raycpa
Well, first off you are calling many on here for their sins.

Whom did I call here for their sin(s)? I suppose disagreeing could be sinful in some peoples' opinions.

I can't remember confronting anyone about abusing my children. I probably should have a couple of people in retrospect, but I grew up in a different era where children were more harshly dealt with than they are now and had a few doses of it myself. I only remember one person trying to get my daughter to go with him and his girlfriend to a titty bar. I thought it over for a couple of days and went down and read him the riot act. There was no preaching or appeal to any bible verse involved. I lost my temper. Never repented that one. Never will. It sure cleared the air on that issue.

Now are you going to judge me and call me on my sin of losing my temper?

78 posted on 03/04/2005 8:14:04 PM PST by Aliska
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To: Aliska
I thought it over for a couple of days and went down and read him the riot act.

Told you.

79 posted on 03/04/2005 8:15:34 PM PST by Raycpa
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To: Aliska
Now are you going to judge me and call me on my sin of losing my temper?

No. Just that you will object to the some sins of others and some you won't.

80 posted on 03/04/2005 8:17:23 PM PST by Raycpa
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