[beaver fever]

Sorry, don't mean to brag but there isn't a lot that goes over my head.

The knife is in our back not yours. The US has been poking it's thumb in Canada's eye for fifteen years on trade and you want us to sign on to MD.

None of my criticisms is base on emotion. What I have said is based on facts that are on the public record for all to see.

I'm not lecturing anyone on their feelings. Feelings are quite irrelevant. I've given my view on why Martin can't support MD because of fifteen years of unresolved trade issues.

Give us something to run with and we can do something on MD.

As it stands the US has lost it's appeal six times since 1991 on softwood at the WTO, GATT and the NAFTA resolution panel and each time the US has chosen to go back to court.

So who has the reputation for not cooperating and consistently saying no?

[Sunsong]

I guess I am not surprised that you don't own up to your lecturing here. It's clear that's what you are doing here.

The truth is I am not invested in whether things "work out" between Canada and America so you are wasting your time giving me advice on how "we" can please "you".

What is true is that Canada has betrayed us twice now since 9/11 and that matters to me. Martin told President Bush that he was onboard for MD. Lying is not ok. And betraying us is not ok.

But as I say, you reflect what many here see as Canadian arrogance - coming here to lecture us about how we feel...and yes, how we "feel" matters.

[Cold Heat]

Trade disputes are the norm for any two countries, each protecting what the people want protected.

These are time honored traditions, and it rarely affects joint defense and matters of international importance, unless of course, one party is acting out like a juvenile.

We have seen this, not just with Canada, but with the rest of "Old Europe".

In this case, the wrong side was picked. We now know something we did not know before, and that is that Canada can no longer be depended upon as a friend, and trust is waining fast.

As far as trade is concerned. Who cares! Get it from the French.