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And the Winner Is: Death, Depravity, and Dullness
BreakPoint with Charles Colson ^ | March 1, 2005 | Charles Colson

Posted on 03/02/2005 7:59:07 AM PST by Mr. Silverback

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To: Mr. Silverback
Oh, and then there’s the nasty little film called Sideways. This film suggests that it’s fine—even funny—for a man to engage in an orgy of sex with strangers just before his wedding. That got an award, too.

The movie in no way suggests that his conduct is "fine," and it clearly depicts the emotional wreckage this man leaves behind him everywhere he goes.

81 posted on 03/02/2005 12:23:23 PM PST by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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To: John Robertson

There is nothing wrong with sharp witted debate. That is one of the purposes of FR.

A person truly only learns from those who disagree with them, and tell them why.


82 posted on 03/02/2005 12:23:52 PM PST by UCANSEE2
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To: Mr. Silverback

I don't know how to put this any other way than just say it (well, I could say it more nicely, but I really don't want to): I am a widely published and produced writer, editor and television writer with many, many credits (national, household-name credits, not the weekly shopper). I'm a professional, is what I'm saying, with years of experience. There are a lot of talented writers on this forum, and there are many others who aren't so talented, but still manage to get their points across. You may be in a new category. You have a way with a phrase, I'll admit it, but you're too smart by half. For the careful reader (editor), there are far too many misusages. And let's not even get into syntax. I believe you believe that you used the word histrionic correctly, but you didn't. Here, from Webster's:

"Main Entry: his·tri·on·ic
Pronunciation: "his-trE-'ä-nik
Function: adjective
Etymology: Late Latin histrionicus, from Latin histrion-, histrio actor
1 : deliberately affected : THEATRICAL
2 : of or relating to actors, acting, or the theater"

I really don't think you'll find many, or any, Freepers who would sign on to the idea that I was deliberately affected (intemperate or strident, sure, impassioned, even), or that my statements have had anything to do with the theater.

As for the rest of your dazzling comeback:

"1 drama queen.
Main Entry: drama queen
Part of Speech: noun
Definition: any person who overreacts to a minor problem or situation"

That ain't working, either. If you were half as smart as you think you are, you'd be twice as smart as your friends know you are. You want to argue, go for it. But when it comes to professional communication, don't play in the Bigs till you're ready. How's that for a kick in the Thesaur..ass?


83 posted on 03/02/2005 12:24:42 PM PST by John Robertson
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To: Mr. Silverback
Well, I'm a Christian, a member of the Academy and I'm miffed. The Academy is supposed to evaluate excellence, talent and performance. Regardless of the content, the members of the Academy are supposed to be able to judge a movie and the people who made it on artistic ability and creativity. "The Passion of the Christ" is crammed with both.

Although the movie couldn't be nominated because of submission rules (it is a foreign language film, but had no foreign country of origin to submit it), they could have, and should have, nominated Gibson for his extraordinary accomplishment. Johnny Depp gets a nomination and not Jim Caviezal? And Caleb Deschanel certainly deserved an Oscar for his cinematography...he's no hack, having won for "The Black Stallion".

I will wager that the same people who gave Densel Washington a Best Actor Oscar for the most offensive, bigoted portrayal of a corrupt black L.A., cop ("Training Day") never even watched the DVD of Passion that everyone was sent.

84 posted on 03/02/2005 12:30:34 PM PST by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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To: Mr. Silverback

Do you think my usage of CAPITAL LETTERS was intended to be interpreted as SHOUTING, based on the context of the sentences they were in, or that it was for emphasis?

Also, Emphasis can be defined as shouting at low volume.

Yes, I know. I don't use it for that, I do it for emphasis.


85 posted on 03/02/2005 12:33:53 PM PST by UCANSEE2
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To: Aquinasfan

Although this is actually kind of the opposite of deus ex machina, instead of some lame twist to get them out of a poorly plotted situation they use a twist (or conveniently forgotten fact) to get them into a situation. I'm not sure that has a name. I agree deus ex machina can be a lot of fun to look for, sure sign of a writer that is bad at logical problem solving, he can write good dramatic situations but has no idea how to get his characters out of them.


86 posted on 03/02/2005 12:34:15 PM PST by discostu (quis custodiet ipsos custodes)
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To: Deb
Always see as many movies as possible and decide what you think about them for yourself.

You mentined somewhere on this thread that you belong to the Academy.

I, as a homeschooling mom, do have a different view. I can see how being in the business, seeing as many movies as possible keeps you abreast of your profession. I avoid as many movies as possible. I don't want to spend that much money, we don't rent a lot of DVD's either. I only go when I can tell it will affirm and inspire my heart. If there are too many commericals pushing one movie, I go out of my way not to see it. I most certainly did not go to see "Million Dollar Baby".

I do not want to be preached at with my own money.

87 posted on 03/02/2005 2:12:02 PM PST by TruthConquers (Delenda est publius schola)
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To: Mr. Silverback

That should be, hermana!

Have a good day :)


88 posted on 03/02/2005 2:38:34 PM PST by TruthConquers (Delenda est publius schola)
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To: TruthConquers
EVIL Counsel Given: Always see as many movies as possible and decide what you think about them for yourself.

YOU VERY WISE RESPONSE: I avoid as many movies as possible. I don't want to spend that much money, we don't rent a lot of DVD's either. I only go when I can tell it will affirm and inspire my heart. I most certainly did not go to see "Million Dollar Baby". I do not want to be preached at with my own money."


Reminds me of the Serpent (Satan the Liar) in the garden with Eve, "Come on Eve, Taste it, gets some knowledge, then decide for yourself what is truth! Are you going to just blindly follow God and His Word in Regards to what to do and not do? Find out for yourself, come on - have a taste of EVERYTHING that is out there, you just might like it!"

GET BEHIND ME SATAN!!!
89 posted on 03/02/2005 3:29:41 PM PST by Esther Ruth (Zechariah 12:9 ... I will seek to destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem.)
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To: TruthConquers
I should have said, "If you're a movie-lover..." I thought that was understood.

If you're not a movie-lover why would you even waste your time on this thread?

I recommend you rent or buy a movie called "The Heart and Soul of America" just now available on DVD. While the world was busy screaming about "F-9/11" Disney dumped this wonderful and tear-jerking documentary Valentine to the USA into a few theaters without a word. It died a horrible death which is unforgivable.

90 posted on 03/02/2005 6:16:08 PM PST by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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To: Deb
I am on this thread because I'm a Coloson fan.

I find his writings thought provoking.

I have made it a point to stay away from Disney as well.

I would need to know if it was not just patriotic, but flavored with Christian ethics as well.
91 posted on 03/02/2005 6:29:54 PM PST by TruthConquers (Delenda est publius schola)
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To: TruthConquers

Oh, please.


92 posted on 03/02/2005 6:33:06 PM PST by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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To: Deb
That was not meant to insult you, you know :)

Those are just my standards.
93 posted on 03/02/2005 7:03:09 PM PST by TruthConquers (Delenda est publius schola)
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To: TruthConquers

I was not insulted in the least. "Phantom of the Opera" is a gorgeous, sweeping, romantic 2 1/2 hours of complete joy and you should see it. There's no reason to cut yourself off from transporting fun or beauty because you have "standards". It's also nice to have informed opinions so you can influence and debate. Or not.


94 posted on 03/02/2005 11:40:05 PM PST by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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To: Mr. Blonde
The movie focused on the postive things he did. Why should that be disparged?

I would need to see the movie to judge. Sometimes focusing on the positive really amounts to a snow job, and sometimes it's redemptive.

95 posted on 03/03/2005 10:22:37 AM PST by Mr. Silverback ('Cow Tipping', a game the whole family can play!)
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To: Towed_Jumper
Sorokin: "Ideational truth is the truth revealed by the grace of God, through His mouthpieces (the prophets, mystics, and founders of religion), disclosed in a supersensory way through mystic experience, direct revelation, divine intuition, and inspiration. Such a truth may be called the truth of faith. It is regarded as infallible, yielding adequate knowledge about the true-reality values. In regard to supersensory phenomena, it claims that any knowledge of these is impossible through sensory experience and is obtained only through the direct revelation of God.

The downside of this, of course, is that the Muslims also claim direct revelation of God.

96 posted on 03/03/2005 10:54:53 AM PST by my_pointy_head_is_sharp
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To: Mr. Silverback

I didn't feel it really overlooked his relationship with starlets, but there were only 3 that he is shown having a relationship with. When you look at what he accomplished outside of that it is really hard to include everything in 3 hours. Especially when you have to try and deal with his OCD and becoming a recluse at times.


97 posted on 03/03/2005 11:56:17 AM PST by Mr. Blonde (You know, Happy Time Harry, just being around you kinda makes me want to die.)
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To: Deb

I can have "standards" and still have fun and beauty. I am not "cut off". I am a very busy mom who must make choices. Entertainment, books and information have become a hill to high and broad to mine its depths completely. It is impossible to be fully informed today. I think the last person who was considered informed on all that could be known was Erasmus.

I believe earlier you questioned me as to why I was on this thread. I believe you thought it was a movie thread.

It is a thread about a specific movie, but written by a Christian I look to for thoughts about our culture. He had been sent to prison for having one FBI file back in the Nixon days. He converted to Christianity in prison.
He now heads up a ministry that reaches into this nations prisons and helps those who convert. He also has a program to bring Christmas presents to children whose parents are unable to buy them anything at that time of year. It helps the children to know they are still loved and were not forgotten. That is real and lasting beauty.

I think you would agree.


98 posted on 03/03/2005 5:49:34 PM PST by TruthConquers (Delenda est publius schola)
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To: Mr. Silverback

The four pillars of 'Modern Thought': Hysteria, Histrionics, Decadence and Degeneration- A great Historian 1888


99 posted on 03/03/2005 5:54:57 PM PST by AEMILIUS PAULUS (Further, the statement assumed)
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To: Mr. Silverback

Colson nails the Awards! How ironic that he was one unfortunate who did serious jail time for the Watergate affair. Gosh, how many of the Felon's close associates did jail time for their multiple crimes while in office? Not many. Why aren't Clinton and Hitlery in jail, is my humble question.


100 posted on 03/03/2005 6:00:34 PM PST by Paulus Invictus
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