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And the Winner Is: Death, Depravity, and Dullness
BreakPoint with Charles Colson ^ | March 1, 2005 | Charles Colson

Posted on 03/02/2005 7:59:07 AM PST by Mr. Silverback

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To: Aquinasfan; RepublicMan4U
I did a comparison late last year between what Kinsey was making and what The Incredibles was making and the difference was astounding.
61 posted on 03/02/2005 12:01:38 PM PST by Mr. Silverback ('Cow Tipping', a game the whole family can play!)
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To: Deb

If CRITICS hate it, I try to see the movie.

If they RAVE about it, I won't waste the money.


62 posted on 03/02/2005 12:01:54 PM PST by UCANSEE2
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To: Mr. Silverback

You've been rude and unduly proprietary (um, maybe Jim Robinson needs to send you a private email informing you that it's not your site, and not your call who's got a "bad attitude" or who's allowed to post on what thread, etc.), but you are fractionally redeemed for publicly stating that you didn't see the movie. Re your extubation inquiry: She asks to "just unplug her," and he says No. So does staff. Once he finally gives her an injection (and much time and wrestling with moral issues goes by), he does extubate her.


63 posted on 03/02/2005 12:04:09 PM PST by John Robertson
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To: UCANSEE2

That works.


64 posted on 03/02/2005 12:06:03 PM PST by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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To: Mr. Silverback

I read most of them. You two seem to be solving the problem without help anyway, so just ignore my patriarchal replies. Maybe others will read them and it will help them.


65 posted on 03/02/2005 12:06:39 PM PST by UCANSEE2
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To: Deb

"No, it doesn't promote euthanasia. "The Sea Inside" promotes euthanasia. "Million Dollar Baby" is just a chick, fight movie with a plot twist.

Always see as many movies as possible and decide what you think about them for yourself."

And the winner for most sobering, rational response is...Deb!


66 posted on 03/02/2005 12:06:42 PM PST by John Robertson
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To: UCANSEE2

I suppose you didn't notice that I was done with this thread.

I think you need to take your own advice.


67 posted on 03/02/2005 12:07:11 PM PST by TruthConquers (Delenda est publius schola)
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To: Mr. Silverback

There are several plot holes surrounding her death. Have you seen patients worse guarded in your whole life? I have never seen a hospital where someone could come into a back entrance and enter someone's room. But the whole point of what he did was to honor her wishes, and show the closing of the relationship. I would guess that many of the jumps made in the plot around this are the fact that FX Toole who wrote it probably didn't know a lot about these situations.


68 posted on 03/02/2005 12:07:27 PM PST by Mr. Blonde (You know, Happy Time Harry, just being around you kinda makes me want to die.)
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To: UCANSEE2

You may retract your coniliatory words after you scroll down to my subsequent posts, but thanks. Have you ever considered hostage negotiation?


69 posted on 03/02/2005 12:08:01 PM PST by John Robertson
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To: Mr. Silverback

It's called artistic license. Many dramas, and even comedies, revolve around artificially removing certain options either through plot twists or just ignoring them. The movie would be kind of boring if they hadn't strategically "forgotten" that she could just order extubation herself, then there'd be no moral quandry for Eastwood's character to navigate.


70 posted on 03/02/2005 12:08:37 PM PST by discostu (quis custodiet ipsos custodes)
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To: Mr. Silverback

I cannot agree with how they talk about Hughes. Sure we can look at the faults of anyone and think poorly of them, or we can look at the positive things they did. The movie focused on the postive things he did. Why should that be disparged?


71 posted on 03/02/2005 12:08:39 PM PST by Mr. Blonde (You know, Happy Time Harry, just being around you kinda makes me want to die.)
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To: Mr. Silverback

Thank you for your efforts to keep this thread on track.

It is not easy, is it?


72 posted on 03/02/2005 12:09:15 PM PST by TruthConquers (Delenda est publius schola)
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To: John Robertson
I don't plan to see the movie. It looks to me like a bore-fest, and it's been a long time since a best Picture Oscar impressed me.

I also don't plan to tell anyone that it promotes euthanasia, because I don't know that it does, but I also won't pretend I can't know anything about the film without seeing it. If I hear an assessment from a source I trust, I will take it as a fact. I did the same thing with Fahrenheit 9/11 and the Passion.

And yes, I do know what histrionic means. I chose it to avoid using more insulting terms, like "drama queen." I hope you appreciate my careful word choice, and again, have a nice day.

73 posted on 03/02/2005 12:09:21 PM PST by Mr. Silverback ('Cow Tipping', a game the whole family can play!)
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To: HairOfTheDog
I think that's the whole point in the article...

You make a good point, but no Christian with a brain (and Colson has a very good one) is miffed that Gibson got snubbed, it's as natural as rain falling from the sky.

74 posted on 03/02/2005 12:11:03 PM PST by Mr. Silverback ('Cow Tipping', a game the whole family can play!)
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To: PeterPrinciple

Speaking of stories, if you can find a DVD of an old TV series called "The Storyteller,</I> it's worth your time. John Hurt plays the title role, and most of the other characters are creatures from Jim Henson's shop.


75 posted on 03/02/2005 12:13:47 PM PST by Mr. Silverback ('Cow Tipping', a game the whole family can play!)
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To: Mr. Blonde

I have. Everybody I've ever visited in the hospital except mothers with new borns (where there's TONS of security) I just walked in through a convenient entrance and went to their room, only time I ever talked to an employee was when they were doing something with the patient while I was there or I specifically sought them out for some reason (find out what room I was aiming for, discuss the actual medical situation).


76 posted on 03/02/2005 12:14:47 PM PST by discostu (quis custodiet ipsos custodes)
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To: John Robertson

Yeah, and I posted a reply addressing that issue to him, and you.

What is really important is that you both seemed to relax and were actually communicating.

I am sure he realizes, in retrospect, he was upset, and you had your remarks as well. We all get involved in these situations where a raw nerve, as misunderstood reply, etc. cause a flurry of negative exchanges. Cause we're human.

Forgive and what seems an enemy might turn out to be a good friend.


77 posted on 03/02/2005 12:14:55 PM PST by UCANSEE2
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To: UCANSEE2
Think about it. Go back and read the posts between you and others. Remember that other posters have a very hard time discerning between SARCASM, ANGER, FRUSTRATION, and CONFUSION. Much 'communication' between people is done with body language, and tone of voice.

Um, in your education about body language and communication, did they tell you all caps is shouting on the internet?

78 posted on 03/02/2005 12:16:23 PM PST by Mr. Silverback ('Cow Tipping', a game the whole family can play!)
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To: TruthConquers
Thank you for your efforts to keep this thread on track.

De nada, mi hermano.

It is not easy, is it?

Like herding cats. Ornery cats.

79 posted on 03/02/2005 12:18:58 PM PST by Mr. Silverback ('Cow Tipping', a game the whole family can play!)
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To: discostu
It's called artistic license. Many dramas, and even comedies, revolve around artificially removing certain options either through plot twists or just ignoring them.

I've been on a deus ex machina kick since I learned the meaning of the term a few weeks ago. It can be pretty funny when you look for it.

80 posted on 03/02/2005 12:23:07 PM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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