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To: FreeReign
I hardly misrepresented your remark! The first principle of respect between independent nations is that no nation has the right to sit in judgment on another.

You appear to want to jettison that principle. Why, I can only guess. But if you jettison that principle, we are back to square one, in a hideously presumptive world. Indeed, your rationalization justifies every thing that has been deleterious in world affairs over the past three generations. You are not the only one who thinks that you have the inside track to a new order for the world. Both the Communists and Nazis tried to justify their assaults on other peoples as "liberation" movements.

What you propose is indeed international anarchy. But you are too focused on your own "virtue," to see it.

William Flax

83 posted on 02/27/2005 5:52:39 PM PST by Ohioan
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To: Ohioan
I hardly misrepresented your remark!

Yes you did, you're just to slow-footed and to hypocritical to know.

The first principle of respect between independent nations is that no nation has the right to sit in judgment on another. You appear to want to jettison that principle.

A government that doesn't respect the unalienable rights of its citizens deserves no respect from anybody. There is no unalienable right for a tyrannical government to exist. That is the first principle of individual rights.

But if you jettison that principle, we are back to square one, in a hideously presumptive world.

A hideously persumptuous POV according to "ohioan":A government that doesn't respect the unalienable rights of its citizens deserves no respect from anybody. There is no unalienable right for a tyrannical government to exist.That is the first principle of individual rights.

Indeed, your rationalization justifies every thing that has been deleterious in world affairs over the past three generations.

A rationalization according to ohioan: A government that doesn't respect the unalienable rights of its citizens deserves no respect from anybody. There is no unalienable right for a tyrannical government to exist. That is the first principle of individual rights.

Your "respect" for tyrannical governments around the world is everything that has been deleterious in world affairs.

are not the only one who thinks that you have the inside track to a new order for the world. Both the Communists and Nazis tried to justify their assaults on other peoples as "liberation" movements.

You compare my POV and the president's POV where we dare advocate that the people of a nation should govern themselves -- you compare that to Communists and Nazis. Your moral relativism is sickening. It's everything the statists of the world preach and you soak it like a milksop.

What you propose is indeed international anarchy. But you are too focused on your own "virtue," to see it.

Governments that respect unalienable rights deserve respect. Governments that. don't respect unalienable rights don't. I don't propose anarchy between nations. The president doesn't propose anarchy between nations. I do propose alliances with and I do advocate that we respect, the nations that do recognize and protect unalienable rights.

But you think thats anarchy, presumptuousness, Nazi-like Communist-like and the root of all evil in the world.

You "ohioan" are a nut!

Argument ad hominem, back at you.

89 posted on 02/27/2005 7:04:50 PM PST by FreeReign
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