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A NEEDED CRACKDOWN (illegals with drivers' licenses; identity theft)
NY POST ^ | February 26, 2005 | EDITORIAL

Posted on 02/26/2005 2:43:52 AM PST by Liz

....someone in NY seems to have heard of 9/11 — unlike Manhattan Supreme Court Justice Karen Smith.

She issued a temporary restraining order against the DMV crackdown, first announced last August, on license issues to people who can't prove they're in the US legally.......Justice Smith declared that the DMV isn't authorized to enforce federal immigration law, since NY is one of only a dozen states that allows non-residents and illegal immigrants to obtain driver's licenses. (When will the Legislature change that, we wonder?)

To be sure, some illegal aliens who do not pose any kind of threat have found themselves caught in the crackdown, which also authorizes DMV to suspend driving privileges for up to 300,000 people.

But that, says MV Commissioner Raymond Martinez, is because "the system unfortunately has no way to differentiate" between illegal aliens who otherwise are law-abiding citizens "and a person bent on bringing terror, fear and destruction to our country."

Now, it also can't be noted too often that anyone who is in this country illegally hardly qualifies for the label law-abiding.

Indeed, driver's licenses serve as the only ID needed to board airplanes and enter many buildings with security guards.

But back in 1995, the DMV began requiring all driver's-license applicants to submit their SS number, in an effort to find child-support delinquents.

But an even bigger problem emerged — identity theft.

More than 100,000 licensed drivers are believed to have had their SS numbers stolen — mostly by people using multiple identities to hide criminal driving records.

In other words, this is not an anti-immigrant measure, as alleged by the Puerto Rican Legal Defense and Education Fund, which has filed a class-action lawsuit against it.

........state officials have a responsibility....to protect all New Yorkers.

(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...


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More than 100,000 licensed drivers are believed to have had their SS numbers stolen — mostly by people using multiple identities to hide criminal driving records.
1 posted on 02/26/2005 2:43:53 AM PST by Liz
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To: Liz

Driving License is a "Privilige" to Legal US People...

Now, I want to know how a "Illegal" gets the driving privilige when they are "illegally" in the U.S. already breaking the number #1 rule which is to be here "legally".

I know if i went to the DMV and told them i was here Illegally and I want a drivers license, I would get arrested and deported, Why? because i guess some of us aren't as lucky as the Illegals. Giving them drivers licenses is like putting your holloween candy out on the front porch, people will grab a fistfull when they should only take one, but my candy/licenses we know is not the best anology.


2 posted on 02/26/2005 3:10:49 AM PST by 1FASTGLOCK45 (Banning, A fate worse than death !!)
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To: 1FASTGLOCK45

Clearly, the illegal problem does not operate in a vacuum but has deletorious repercussions across the spectrum of American life.......all of it injurious to law-abiding Ameircans. Not to mention our having to subsidize every aspect of illegals' activities.


3 posted on 02/26/2005 3:17:54 AM PST by Liz (Wise men are instructed by reason; lesser men, by experience; the ignorant, by necessity. Cicero)
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To: Liz
.... since NY is one of only a dozen states that allows non-residents and illegal immigrants to obtain driver's licenses.


4 posted on 02/26/2005 3:19:23 AM PST by SheLion (The America we once knew and loved ........................is gone.)
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To: Liz
For instance:


5 posted on 02/26/2005 3:22:09 AM PST by SheLion (The America we once knew and loved ........................is gone.)
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To: Liz

I totally agree, Illegals get their "Free Lunch", paid by ours truly.... When ever I travel I am always asked for Passport for any transaction needing ID, my CALI Dr Lic is worthless outside of the U.S. and pretty soon worthless inside the U.S. due to this.


6 posted on 02/26/2005 3:26:35 AM PST by 1FASTGLOCK45 (Banning, A fate worse than death !!)
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To: Liz

Stop punishing the citizens - make it impossible for non-citizens to get any American ID.


7 posted on 02/26/2005 3:37:55 AM PST by Malleus Dei ("Communists are just Democrats in a hurry.")
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To: SheLion

RINO....what else could we expect?


8 posted on 02/26/2005 4:07:13 AM PST by Liz (Wise men are instructed by reason; lesser men, by experience; the ignorant, by necessity. Cicero)
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To: 1FASTGLOCK45; Malleus Dei; SheLion
It's an extrmely difficult problem to tackle....there are all kind of conflicting issues, so many groups vying for and against.

One recommendation might be that the countries from which these people are fleeing should take some responsibility for allowing border-crossings with impunity, and even be forced to contribute to their upkeep.

Americans are afraid to ask, "What next?"

The Mexican government now publishes a book instructing its nationals on how to be an illegal.

Ironically, one of the big selling points of the NAFTA deal was that it would greatly alleviate illegal Mexican border-jumping......but since that time it has skyrocketed.

Adding insult to injury American taxpayers are subsidizing foreign aid transfers to Mexico.

The government of Mexico---with all of its oil revenue----needs to be taking care of its own people, "outsourcing' them as wards of American taxpayers.

Mexico can well-afford it. Mexico has more "Forbes" billionaires, 11, than all but eight other nations. It has more billionaires than Saudi Arabia, Switzerland or Taiwan. It also has more than 85,000 millionaires. According to the CNN report,

Mexico sits on oil reserves worth about $400 billion, but Mexico's state-owned oil company, Pemex, doesn't have the investment funds to tap those reserves, and Mexico's Congress refuses to allow foreign investment in Pemex.

According to Visa International that is now clamoring for a share of the transfer fees, American money sent South of the Border by illegals constitutes $38 BILLION this year alone constituting Mexico's second largest most profitable industry.

America needs to seal our borders and let Vincente Fox know that we will cut off every penny in aid he gets from the United States.

America should mandate proof for all cash transfers out of the US and/or force all transferring agencies -- banks, credit unions, Amex, Western Union to collect a substantial withholding tax -- 50%, say -- on every unexplained foreign remittance.

9 posted on 02/26/2005 4:12:24 AM PST by Liz (Wise men are instructed by reason; lesser men, by experience; the ignorant, by necessity. Cicero)
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To: Liz; JohnHuang2; keri; international american; Kay Soze; jpsb; hershey; TomInNJ; dagnabbit; ...
SOCIALIST JUDGE THINKS SHE IS AN OBL QUEEN - ping.

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She (justice smith) issued a temporary restraining order against the DMV crackdown, first announced last August, on license issues to people who can't prove they're in the US legally.......

Justice Smith declared that the DMV isn't authorized to enforce federal immigration law, since NY is one of only a dozen states that allows non-residents and illegal immigrants to obtain driver's licenses. (When will the Legislature change that, we wonder?)

10 posted on 02/26/2005 4:20:47 AM PST by Happy2BMe (Government is not the solution to our problem, government *IS* the problem.)
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To: Liz

Thanks for the quicky History lesson, I learn more here than i did in all 4 years of highschool!


11 posted on 02/26/2005 4:24:26 AM PST by 1FASTGLOCK45 (Banning, A fate worse than death !!)
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To: Liz

We have laws to deal with this already. Time to start hassling the police and make them do their bloody jobs! Put some complicit businessmen and politicians in jail and we might get somewhere.


12 posted on 02/26/2005 4:26:43 AM PST by Havoc (Reagan was right and so was McKinley. Down with free trade. Hang the traitors high)
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To: Liz

All good points. Mexico needs regime change from the corrupt and racist ruling class of Mexico City.


13 posted on 02/26/2005 4:28:40 AM PST by ovrtaxt (McClellan: Do away with daily press briefings! Come straight to the New Media!)
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To: Liz
Clearly, the illegal problem does not operate in a vacuum but has deletorious repercussions across the spectrum of American life.......all of it injurious to law-abiding Ameircans. Not to mention our having to subsidize every aspect of illegals' activities.

That may be true but politicians are more interested in, PC,VOTES,and RACISM than in protecting this country. Go to the thread that talks about a airport gate attendant, look at the images of 9/11, and than tell me illegals have rights!!!

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1351511/posts

14 posted on 02/26/2005 4:44:11 AM PST by stopem (Support the troops yellow ribbon purse-key-holders.)
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To: Liz

I thought that Senator Hillaryrodhamclinton is all over the illegal alien issue.


15 posted on 02/26/2005 4:46:29 AM PST by COUNTrecount
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To: Liz

bump


16 posted on 02/26/2005 5:05:48 AM PST by RippleFire ("It's a joke, son!")
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To: Liz
But that, says MV Commissioner Raymond Martinez, is because "the system unfortunately has no way to differentiate" between illegal aliens who otherwise are law-abiding citizens "and a person bent on bringing terror, fear and destruction to our country."

One of these things are different,

One of these things just aren't like the rest,

And if you guess this one...

Then you're aaaaaabsolutely right!

17 posted on 02/26/2005 5:13:20 AM PST by frithguild (Defining hypocrisy - Liberals fear liberty.)
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To: frithguild; Blurblogger; geedee; jer33 3; Libloather; Mudboy Slim
But that, says MV Commissioner Raymond Martinez, is because "the system unfortunately has no way to differentiate" between illegal aliens who otherwise are law-abiding citizens "and a person bent on bringing terror, fear and destruction to our country."

A quintessential statement on the fatuousness of the moral relativity that prevails in politically correct, non-judgemental, liberal circles. God forbid they make a moral judgement.

They cannot differentiate between right and wrong, legal and illegal. Can these suckers even tell the difference between night and day, black and white, snow from rain?

18 posted on 02/26/2005 5:28:20 AM PST by Liz (Wise men are instructed by reason; lesser men, by experience; the ignorant, by necessity. Cicero)
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To: Liz

Manhattan Supreme Court Justice

I have always found it interesting that state court judges believe they are allowed to determine federal law--that is, a state official may decide whether or not states can enforce national laws, and in what ways precisely they may do so. It's fascinating how the federal and state courts seem to have a completely variable interpretation of supremacy when it comes to immigration, abortion, and gun rights (among others).

Thank goodness we have a federal system in this country. /sarcasm


19 posted on 02/26/2005 5:40:11 AM PST by LibertarianInExile (The South will rise again? Hell, we ever get states' rights firmly back in place, the CSA has risen!)
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To: LibertarianInExile

Amazing. A judge has decided that a state's limits on the privilege of driving is somehow enforcing immigration law. What a stretch.


20 posted on 02/26/2005 7:31:23 AM PST by raybbr
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