THEY'RE HEERE (4-Star NYPost Review Praises Peter Jennings for Exposing Gov’t UFO Coverup)

NY Post ^ | February 23, 2005 | LINDA STASI

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WHY would a serious journalist like Peter Jennings tackle a silly subject like UFOs? Maybe it's because 40 million Americans can't be wrong. It turns out that 40 million of us have claimed to have seen UFOs, while half — yes, half — of all Americans believe in their existence… < snip >

So, why, if millions of people have seen UFOs, are the eyewitnesses immediately reduced to the level of raving loonies (from "lunar")? Interestingly enough, that is the legacy of another successful government PR campaign…< snip >

The feds thought they could keep a lid on UFO sightings and keep a budding worldwide panic under control by making witnesses look crazy. Yes, it seems you could fool all of the people all of the time… < snip >

Good for Jennings for reaching for the stars!

[Quix]

Actually, my pulse and blood pressure are quite calm.

Thanks for your concern.

But for one so supposedly erudite and scientific, I'd have thought you'd have known what a type II error was.

Regardless of the labels, I've since seen them switched . . . but as my dissertation chairman asserted it . . .

TYPE I ERROR says there's something there, when there isn't.

TYPE II ERROR says there's nothing there, when there is.

You seem to be very addicted to trusting that absolutely NO TYPE II error is going to come up and bite you in the buns ever at all in the future.

Doesn't seem very scientific, to me.

In other words, ignoring half the equation regarding error possibilities doesn't smack me of scientific or wise.

[Quix]

Mushing statements together into one sentence isn't overly helpful.

Have said plenty on that topic on FR. Don't care to dredge it all up at the moment. Other fish to fry.

You can check out other UFO threads over the last several years--even the last year, as I recall. And, my FR personal page may have some more insight on it. I don't recall.

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I have stated quite clearly on this thread that I am perfectly willing to believe we have been visited if presented with verifiable evidence.

Perhaps you have difficulty understanding my earth-based language.

[ReagansRaiders]

Don't you know? The Mayan calendar ends in 2012. This year is 2005. That time span is 7 years. And doesn't the Bible speak of the 7 years before Armageddon? Ipso fact, Peter Jennings is filing the first report on the End of the World and Steven Spielberg's big screen adaptation of H.G. Wells' "War of the Worlds" is due this summer starring Mr. Scientology. Tom Cruise. It's a conspiracy, I tell you. It must be. I saw it on the X-Files. Charles Nelson Reilly had it right all along!!!

[Jimmyclyde]

I read your profile page and you mention it there as well.

I am just interested in how you support your premise of an extra terrestrial/Satan pact?

I know of no Scripture that can support such a claim.

[RckyRaCoCo]

Canadian Alien

[ninonitti]

Peter Jennings: UFOs are real and the Democratic Party is out to help the little guy. Trust me. And some will.

And my social security taxes are kept in a lock box.

[SlightOfTongue]

I found another disenfranchised voter in Ohio!

[Starboard]

Aliens will never control the minds of earth's liberals

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Very funny comment, but probably would prove to be true! Liberal dogma is highly resistant to modification. Their minds have an amazing cability to tune out any contradictory facts or conflicting information.

[lonevoice]

I hope more than minute or two of your interview with Jennings survived the cutting room.

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[Quix]

Willing is better than some.

It just seems that you insist on a level of proof at this point in time that is highly unlikely. This may well change any day but at the moment--seems unlikely.

And the unlikely probably has little to do with the realities involved of the existence of such stuff and a lot to do with other issues surrounding those realities.

It has been said that extraordinary phenomena require extraordinary proof. Fine, to a point.

Toooooo rigid a stance of toooooo narrow a position in such directions automatically walls off early alerts to contingencies which can be devastating.

Lots of things are . . . unlikely to be evident until it's too late. Actually, it's already too late.

But learning to cope with new paradigm shifts likely happens best out of a super crisis context. Dealing with these realities at an unknown point in the future may well be overwhelming for a lot of people who have taken comfort--unwise comfort--to me--in a seemingly mindless cleaving to a TYPE II error vs a more balanced attitude and approach.

Actually, skepticism is not only wise, on the whole, but essential in this area. There's far too much disinformation and chaff compared to bits of fact puzzle pieces. We must be skeptical. We, imho, especially have to be skeptical of claims that ET's et al are benign or our saviors.

I just get weary of the seemingly knee jerk dismissive and especially the knee jerk derisive attitude that plays so well the pied piper tune of the puppet masters. Those jokers are not anyone's good and reliable friends. They would sell each other to satan in a flash for higher rank. They certainly have no affection for the rest of us.

[Abundy]

As all the nay-sayers come on the thread I will post this:

I have family by marriage in Argentina. While my brother was there years ago he was taken to a location where people regularly come to observe UFO activity. The location is near a mountain range. This was after he noticed an entire house full of high-quality photographs of objects in his in-law's residence and expressed disbelief upon being told they were photographs of UFOs taken locally. He went to the location and observed them for himself as did his wife. He brought one of the pictures home to show me. I have seen it.

He just went down again over this past Christmas. All the photographs were gone. His in-laws explained that the one day with no warning government agents showed up one day demanding all of his photographs and confiscated them with instructions not to discuss what he had seen where he had seen them, when he had seen them, that he had photographed them and/or where the photographs went. The agents were very intimidating. He didn't tell them that my brother had one.

FWIW

Flame away.

[Quix]

Some people infer things from varioius oblique Scriptures. I don't get much into that.

I just go by the goals and behaviors which seem to me to be the opposite of Christ-like.

Also, they play part and parcel into--support wholesale the globalist goal of setting up the end times world government ruled by satan so clearly spoken of in The Bible.

With Israel becoming a nation again in 1948, the prophetic end time clock was set on fast time, so to speak. Lots of things have happened in that direction since. Thousands of data points have registered in that direction.

[Quix]

Thanks.

So many thousands of people have had similar experiences.

Your courage is admirable.

[Frank_Discussion]

Afternoon, dead.

Let me chime in here: I pop up on UFO threads from time to time, and it is amazing how quickly the forum descends to ridicule on this subject. There is an unproven assumption that UFO=liberal=loony, when in fact the possibility of interacting with another race is utterly indistinct in terms of conservatism or liberalism. And quite to the contrary, considering the possibilities in a serious way is profoundly conservative.

It is a conservative ideal to create value in the universe, and to explore. Understanding whatever UFO's might be is of this nature.

Other conservative ideals are the concepts of self-protection and liberty, which require seeing beyond your present and into the future to understand threats to both. If indeed there is a "them" visiting us, we need to evaluate them with same scrutiny we should be applying to terrestrial aliens. This does not mean that we should assume invasion, but neither does it demand a new-age benevolent contact. It requires a certain balance, something that is often lacking by both the sides of the discussion.

Beyond that, intelligent consideration of how such possible technologies work is a useful exercise for the mind. As an engineer, I find it particularly fascinating that there are theories being stoked for faster-than-light travel, and that the atmospheric ops of UFOs are very much in accordance with physics, despite foolish and sloppy claims to the contrary.

For those of us that take study of ufology seriously, it is extremely grating that there are so many clowns and con artists in our midst that make us look loony by association.

What is the point of this little embedded vanity? A plea for a little due respect for the subject, as it is warranted.

[Quix]

Extremely well put.

BTW, I forget--are you on my UFO ping list? Do youwish to be?

[disclaimer]

UFOs and aliens—is there something going on?
...Given the number of unexplainable sightings every year, however, there should be a virtual queue of extraterrestrial craft entering our atmosphere. But this has never been detected. Although the majority of sightings are explainable as natural or man-made phenomena, or psychological delusions, some are not so easy to dismiss. Regardless of whatever one may think they are, the evidence suggests that they are already here, that is, emanating from the earth.

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[Frank_Discussion]

Thanks for the kind words. As I said, there is balance to be struck, and I feel I'm there.

Yep. I'm a listee.

[ASA Vet]

I never saw either of them at Kadena.