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Scientists: Sea of Ice Discovered on Mars
AP on Yahoo ^ | 2/22/05 | Toby Sterling - AP

Posted on 02/22/2005 5:52:37 PM PST by NormsRevenge

AMSTERDAM, Netherlands - Images relayed by a European space probe reveal the existence of a sea of ice close to the equator of Mars, scientists said Tuesday at a conference in the Netherlands. The existence of water or ice would significantly increase the chance that microscopic life may also be found on Mars.

The evidence comes from photographs — not yet published — taken last year by the European Space Agency's Mars Express probe currently orbiting the red planet.

Scientists have long theorized there was once water on Mars, and data from NASA (news - web sites)'s Mars Rovers has recently appeared to confirm it. But most scientists believed the water had evaporated into the atmosphere early in the planet's history.

"The point is that the ice is very recent: it appears to still be there, covered beneath a layer of dust and ash," John Murray of Britain's Open University told the Associated Press in a telephone interview.

Photographs from the Mars Express showing what ESA scientists said was the most direct evidence yet of water in the form of ice on the red planet have been sent back and analyzed over the past few months.

Murray co-authored a paper detailing the findings which was to be published in the March 17 issue of Nature.

"You can see pack ice in formations that are remarkably similar, identical to ice floes in Antarctica," he said.

Murray said the ice was believed to have formed five million years ago — the blink of an eye, in geological terms — atop a body of water the size of Earth's North Sea.

The water is believed to have originated beneath the surface of Mars, near a series of fractures known as the Cerberus Fossae, where it gushed forth in a catastrophic flood after being warmed by the planet's core.

It collected in a vast area more than 500 miles long and wide, and 50 yards deep.

"If there were warm, wet places, then life could have developed," Murray said.

"That's the place we should look."

The findings were discussed at a major conference in Noordwijk which concludes Friday.


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KEYWORDS: cerberusfossae; discovered; esa; ice; mars; martiandesert; scientists; sea
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To: WorkingClassFilth

#5- is that a nasty joke?? or not?? I don't know whether to laugh or not =o)


21 posted on 02/22/2005 7:40:13 PM PST by GeronL (Bush on the PRESS "They just float sewer out there.")
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To: WorkingClassFilth
"If there were warm, wet places, then life could have developed..."

I have noticed that warm, wet places (snicker) are the only places that ever produce life.
22 posted on 02/22/2005 7:44:17 PM PST by DixieOklahoma (Since 2004: real American voters = 1, dead democrats = 0)
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To: NormsRevenge

This is what happens when you stop global warming, the freaken place freezes over.


23 posted on 02/22/2005 8:00:34 PM PST by Ursus arctos horribilis ("It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees!" Emiliano Zapata 1879-1919)
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To: GeronL

It's not nasty. It's a God given pleasure. ;)


24 posted on 02/22/2005 8:01:33 PM PST by WorkingClassFilth (What if they had to hold a bake sale to pay for the salaries at NPR?)
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To: WorkingClassFilth

"In my experience, this has been correct."

Ohhhwaaaaa. (:>)


25 posted on 02/22/2005 8:02:54 PM PST by Ursus arctos horribilis ("It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees!" Emiliano Zapata 1879-1919)
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To: WorkingClassFilth

You have picked the right Freeper name for yourself.LOL


26 posted on 02/22/2005 8:15:24 PM PST by fish hawk
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To: BenLurkin

http://www.cyberspaceorbit.com/steadlake.html

Lake Steadman on Mars, at Latitude 24.65°, Longitude 207.10°

Lots more like it...

27 posted on 02/22/2005 8:23:56 PM PST by earglasses (...whereas I was blind, now I see...)
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To: A. Pole
olar wind pushing small particles of dust and spores goes only outward direction.

But I've seen sailing vessels tack back and forth and advance into the wind. So if these were the spores of intelligient life who's to say they didn't know how to tack up the solar wind ?

Eh eh ?

;-)
28 posted on 02/22/2005 8:45:21 PM PST by festus (The constitution may be flawed but its a whole lot better than what we have now.)
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To: djf
How come Eddie gets a crater? What the heck did he do?

Oh, man! That's where he cratered from the balconey dive during spring break, dude! Remember? You held his beer for him! :-D

29 posted on 02/22/2005 10:47:01 PM PST by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: BradyLS
"Eddies in the space-time continuum!"-Ford Prefect

"Well that's his lookout then isn't it?"-Arthur Dent

30 posted on 02/22/2005 11:54:19 PM PST by WestVirginiaRebel ("Senator, we can have this discussion in any way that you would like.")
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To: NormsRevenge

If this turns out to be true, then its importance cannot be underestimated. And people are mostly dismissing it with crude jokes.


31 posted on 02/23/2005 2:15:10 AM PST by Wilhelm Tell
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To: WorkingClassFilth
"If there were warm, wet places, then life could have developed..." .......... In my experience, this has been correct.

LOL.

32 posted on 02/23/2005 2:24:57 AM PST by beyond the sea (Barbara Boxer is Barbra Streisand on peyote .....)
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To: NormsRevenge

Not sure I can identify or even speculate on the two smooth, oval convex objects in the right half of the picture. Anybody have any guesses?


33 posted on 02/23/2005 8:24:34 AM PST by omni-scientist
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To: omni-scientist

crater impacts, most likely,, fairly new too...

The ESA Mars Express site has some good photos of that general area around the Olympus Mons volcano.


34 posted on 02/23/2005 9:11:29 AM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ...... The War on Terrorism is the ultimate 'faith-based' initiative.)
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To: Wilhelm Tell
people are mostly dismissing it with crude jokes.

One thing is that it isn't a total surprise; the rovers have been crawling around for a year. Another thing is this is a Euro spacecraft, not NASA. Another thing is most FReepers don't realize they are part of the global civil society.

35 posted on 02/23/2005 9:17:23 AM PST by RightWhale (Please correct if cosmic balance requires.)
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To: NormsRevenge
You know the pattern on the surface does look like a broken sheet/pack ice . . .<><>
36 posted on 02/23/2005 12:23:31 PM PST by BenLurkin
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To: BenLurkin
What isthis if it isn't ice?


37 posted on 02/23/2005 12:30:45 PM PST by js1138
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To: js1138
Frozen sand worms! 8^)

(I'm not sure Hoagland can resist photo-shopping his Mars images)

38 posted on 02/23/2005 12:42:22 PM PST by BenLurkin
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To: NormsRevenge

The only reason I questioned it was that the small craters on the left are illuminated on the right side indicating the sun's position was to the left. If so, why are the larger "craters" illuminated on the left side? It certainly gives the visual impression that they are raised dome-shaped formations.


39 posted on 02/24/2005 7:07:48 AM PST by omni-scientist
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