Posted on 02/22/2005 1:00:01 PM PST by nickcarraway
Terri Schiavo
Deposition of Dr. Walker, Manatee Hospital -- Originator of Bone Scan: Beating
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1333205/posts?page=2685#2685
http://www.hospicepatients.org/terri-schiavo-1991-bonescan.jpg
Contact numbers of government officials: Please request that
Governor Bush as Chief Law Enforcement Officer of Florida, head of
Department of Children and Families and Agency For Healthcare Administration
place Terri Schiavo into protective custody of DCF and to initiate
investigation against the perpetrators conspiring to make Terri dead.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1333205/posts?page=2665#2665
It may be a shame but he is one of the perpetrators in trying to make her dead:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1348825/posts?page=41#41
What is the contact information you are using?
"Isn't PVS, among other things, an inability to interact with others? That's NOT what Terri is! She's interacting with her family the best way she can right now, since she's not had any sort of rehab at all. "
Well, that is an issue of debate. A number of doctors are asserting that her responses are strictly reflexes, and involuntary responses to changes in light, sound, touch, etc. I watched the videos on terrisfight.org, and I, for one, was not convinced. But then again, I'm not a doctor.
Having gone through a similar experience while my father was in a coma (he died 20 days after the incident), I can understand how family members would optimistically think that these reactions are conscious movements. It was quite difficult for me when I realized that his responses were unrelated to my presence, holding his hand, or speaking to him.
Bump. Get as many people as you can to get as many people as they can to raise their voices up and take actions to save Terri. Call those officials. Protective custody for Terri Schiavo.. investigate the perpetrators trying to get away with murder.
Terri Schiavo
Deposition of Dr. Walker, Manatee Hospital -- Originator of Bone Scan: Beating
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1333205/posts?page=2685#2685
http://www.hospicepatients.org/terri-schiavo-1991-bonescan.jpg
Contact numbers of government officials: Please request that Governor Bush as Chief Law Enforcement Officer of Florida, head of Department of Children and Families and Agency For Healthcare Administration place Terri Schiavo into protective custody of DCF and to initiate
investigation against the perpetrators conspiring to make Terri dead.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1333205/posts?page=2665#2665
No, it's not. She is conscious. There is video proving it. It's a Kafkaesque situation--no one will permit her to say what she really wants to do.
You say you've read up on this extensively, yet apparently you haven't seen the video. Keep reading, and keep digging into this. Either you don't know what you're talking about, or you're another right-to-die troll.
I left the link....
Why do you even need that criteria to kill someone? Is a life irrelevant once it is determined to fall within this description? If so, why?
well, if a person is completely unconscious, and the only brain functions still working are those for involuntary activity, then why artificially keep the person alive? At that point, there has been to much tissue death, with no chance of recovery. not even a little bit. Why not let nature run its course? For how long would you keep this (hypothetical) person alive? 10, 20, 100 years?
thank you, i will read it
A distinction must be made between killing someone and allowing a person to die.
People die in hospitals and hospices every day because treatment has been withdrawn or refused. This is ethical and legal.
To the contrary, others go on living -- often after a respirator has been removed. The intent is to let nature take its course.
The debate may intensify when nutritional support is at issue. But there is still widespread agreement in the medical field that artificial nutrition and hydration is an extraordinary medical intervention and that it does not provide comfort to a dying patient.
One of the great things about our society is the value placed on individuals. Our system of justice recognizes the powerful obligation to preserve life.
However, the choice to hold out for a miracle, when it means defying all reasonable odds, isn't a choice that respects the dignity of life. To the contrary, it's a perversion of life when bodily functions are permitted to continue just because the technology exists to allow for that.
No one, no scientist, no doctor, no one can declare for certain that a human being is in 100% vegetative state permanently. And any doctor who says he can is an arrogant and dangerous fool.
Well, since Terri WAS eating by mouth, that doesn't seem relevant here.
If her "husband" hadn't denied her food, this whole thing wouldn't be an issue, since she would have NO "tubes".
She isn't "dying".
well, i wouldn't disagree with that. but at some point, you must accept reality, and let your loved one die a natural, dignified death. obviously, no one can make this decision for anyone else.
Natural and dignified death? Well if you ask 100 people what they mean by that you might get a variety of answers.
Pandora's box is already wide open. Once insurance companies and government regulated health care regulations came into the picture, Hospice and wink wink medicine for the elderly and sick came into prminnece. It's too late for a humane and Christian approach to death IMO short of a revolution in ethics.
"Well, since Terri WAS eating by mouth, that doesn't seem relevant here."Where did you see that Terri Schiavo was eating by mouth? Are you implying that the multitude of medical personel that have come in contact with Terri are somehow so incompetant that they cannot tell that their patient is not and cannot eat by mouth? Even her parents don't make that claim.
Or in the alternative, is there some vast conspiracy involving hundreds of people over the years, to murder Terri? Or perhaps you mean prior to the night of her collapse she was eating.
Reference your post # 6:
Man you said a mouthfull!
What I have noticed about both the right-to-diers and the starvation-isn't- painful crowd is neither camp is willing to lead by example.
To Wit:
The right-to-die crowd is hot to trot to kill Terri and they will tell you at the drop of a hat [and throw it down] how death would be a blesing, they never volunteer to be blessd themselves.
Same thing for the starvation-is-painless crowd. You do see then going without food and water until they die.
"The right-to-die crowd is hot to trot to kill Terri and they will tell you at the drop of a hat [and throw it down] how death would be a blesing, they never volunteer to be blessd themselves."
And, if you haven't noticed, they haven't suffered a massive brain injury which has left them with virtually no cerebral cortex either.
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