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To: AaronInCarolina

"Please keep in mind my earlier post where the issue is not blame... under no scenario can it be said the mother is to blame, but at the same time, this situation was avoidable."

Yes I agree it was avoidable. Okay, ladies. Here's how to avoid it:

Never trust a man.
Never go outside.
If you go outside, never speak to a man.
Never assume you have the same sexual freedom that men have.
Never .... on and on

Aaron, all murders can be avoided. But there is definitely a problem in this country with men killing wives, girlfriends, pregnant and not pregnant. I assume you are a guy...what's the real reason?

I refuse to place any blame on this woman or her children. I think it is sad that people are sitting out there right now thinking more about how she caused this by becoming intimate with someone. The killer is to blame. No one else.


513 posted on 02/22/2005 3:25:52 PM PST by truthluva
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To: truthluva

"I refuse to place any blame on this woman or her children. I think it is sad that people are sitting out there right now thinking more about how she caused this by becoming intimate with someone. The killer is to blame. No one else."

The killer is to blame. But surely you can see why a mother should not place herself or her child in quasi-family situations. It's been scientifically proven that children of divorce or far better off being rasied in one-parent homes than in mixed family - Emtionally and physically


518 posted on 02/22/2005 3:52:40 PM PST by rlferny
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To: truthluva

truthluva - I suspect I'm about to make myself really unpopular, but there it is. You said, obviously in sarcasm: "Never trust a man.
Never go outside.
If you go outside, never speak to a man.
Never assume you have the same sexual freedom that men have.
Never .... on and on"
I gotta take issue with the sexual freedom part (you atheists cover your eyes). Women ARE different from men. Duh. One of the ways we are different is the God-given gift of being able to bring children into the world. Whether we like it or not, whether it's "fair" or not, it is. This confers upon us a different and perhaps greater responsiblity. The consequences are certainly different.

I'm not speaking to this particular woman and her children, because I don't know enough about them to speak to her situation. But, because of the unavoidable facts of our being, women do not have the same sexual freedom that men have. We can try, but someone always pays when we do, and often it is the children who end up paying.


519 posted on 02/22/2005 3:53:47 PM PST by SuzyQue (Remember to think.)
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To: truthluva
Yes I agree it was avoidable. Okay, ladies. Here's how to avoid it:

Never trust a man.
Never go outside.
If you go outside, never speak to a man.
Never assume you have the same sexual freedom that men have.
Never .... on and on

Aaron, all murders can be avoided. But there is definitely a problem in this country with men killing wives, girlfriends, pregnant and not pregnant. I assume you are a guy...what's the real reason?

I refuse to place any blame on this woman or her children. I think it is sad that people are sitting out there right now thinking more about how she caused this by becoming intimate with someone. The killer is to blame. No one else.

I sense a lot of sarcasm in this post. I also sense that you wish to start a battle of the sexes war. I will not participate in that.

Nobody here is blaming the mother for this murder. There is only one perpetrator in this crime, and yes it was a man. Nobody is defending this man, nor should they. I hold this man completely responsible for the murder of these two. He will probably die for his crime, as well he should. But do you know what? The price he will pay for his crime will, unfortunately, not deter another piece of scum in the future from doing the same to another mother/child. And don't think for a moment that those jerks aren't out there. But mothers/children do not have to fall prey to them. That is why we question her decisions. Not to denigrate her, nor satisfy some sick urge to besmirch a dead mother. No, we can't at this point in time save this mother, but maybe we can make a mother in the future think twice about the person she brings into the life of her child. The fact that Jayden had never met this man suggests a lack of proper vetting of his character. Maybe we can help prevent such events in the future.

By the way, since you asked... yes, I am a man. But it really doesn't matter to me if the parent was a man or woman. I would respond exactly the same if the genders had been reversed. You seem to want to make a big deal of men being critical of this mother's decisions. I assure you, I would be just as concerned about the decision making if the parent had been a man murdered by a woman. Parents (of either gender) need to know that they have no higher responsibilty in this life greater than providing for the security and safety of their children. This child relied upon a parent to make decisions that kept him out of harms way. In this case, the parent was a woman. It could easily have happened with genders reverse. Please don't turn this into male bashing, or suggest that I am female bashing. I am not bashing anyone, I am trying to raise the awareness that parents of either gender must make the security of their children their utmost responsibility.
558 posted on 02/22/2005 7:50:41 PM PST by AaronInCarolina
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