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Bodies of mother, son found in Justin (BREAKING TX)
Star-Telegram ^ | Feb. 22, 2005 | By Deanna Boyd and Melody McDonald

Posted on 02/22/2005 10:09:10 AM PST by Dubya

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To: yellowdoghunter

[You do not know how to pick a good husband, father, etc....you do not know how to tell a loser from a winner? I know there are always exceptions to that rule, but 98% of the time, if you use good judgement you will pick a good person.]

I've been married for 28 years. Not all men are the same. Not all slimeballs are obvious. Take you for instance...until you posted this piece of crap I may have thought you were a decent sort. See how easily who fool others!


81 posted on 02/22/2005 10:36:58 AM PST by truthseeker2
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To: marajade

If only she would have devoted ALL of her time to her son and job, this probably wouldn't have happened. But she wanted "a perfect daughter too". Too bad she didn't first try to find "a perfect husband".

I do feel compassion for this women, but I am so sick of seeing children sacrificied on an alter of lust....that I am passed my breaking point.


82 posted on 02/22/2005 10:36:59 AM PST by yellowdoghunter (Liberals should be seen and not heard.)
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To: yellowdoghunter

Perhaps it is not so much the sentiment (yes, people are responsible for their choices, you existentialist), but the timing of speaking this sentiment, and where that sentiment was spoken.

For my money, though, I think both the timing and the sentiment are off.


83 posted on 02/22/2005 10:37:18 AM PST by dmz
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To: yellowdoghunter
At what point do we start telling women to pick better men?

Did I miss the memo saying "ATTENTION ALL FEMALES! Only get involved with stinkers!"? I mean, I thought everyone wants to be with someone that is 'good' for them. Of course we all know to pick better men! We try, really do try.

That is just it...so many think we are making the right choice. In this case, maybe she thought he WAS an OK guy. Maybe he was a smooth talker or charming or flattering or kind to her child.

I have yet to met a woman who says "Oh! My new beau, he is wonderful! And rotten to the core; he lies to me, runs around behind my back and even kicks my dog when I'm not looking. I am SO lucky!"

As far as I know, being a bad judge of character isn't gender specific. In any case, bad judgement on the part of the victim never makes murder OK.

84 posted on 02/22/2005 10:37:21 AM PST by najida (Honest judge, how those toasters keep falling in the bathtub, I'll never know!)
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To: yellowdoghunter

Here are your own words:

"This case is very sad. Too bad the mother did not provide a stable, loving home for that boy. But as you see, she did not use good judgement in picking whom she made kids with. "

None of this was reflected in the story. As it turns out, she had a business, was well-liked, had many friends, and was, apparently providing a stable home. She was murdered.

You have no information, yet you surmise that she was killed because of her own bad judgment. You should be ashamed of yourself.


85 posted on 02/22/2005 10:37:35 AM PST by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: marajade

yellowdoghunter did not say she DESERVED to be murdered.
He reflected upon the circumstances of that murder and the bad things that sometimes happen to good people who don't make the right choices.

There was nothing wrong in saying that which is standard conservative thinking. Or at least used to be.

OOW births are a bad thing in general and too often have a bad result.


86 posted on 02/22/2005 10:37:38 AM PST by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
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To: highflight
Ms. Underwood sounds as if she was a wonderful mother and a caring human being and I question why she did not see the need for the same characteristics in a father for her children?

How do you know she didn't? How do you know she realized what a jackass the guy was AFTER she got pregnant, and didn't want an abortion? You just don't know enough about this story to make such broad-brushed generalizations.

87 posted on 02/22/2005 10:37:43 AM PST by rintense
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To: yellowdoghunter

You poor thing. Is your life that sad? Seems to me she was a good mom, Jayden seemed to be well adjusted according to the story, how do you know Jayden's father was not a good guy.


88 posted on 02/22/2005 10:37:55 AM PST by Burlem
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To: highflight
Go preach somewhere else.

This is a thread about a DEAD WOMAN and HER SON; try not to cast stones for a couple of hours, if you can.

89 posted on 02/22/2005 10:37:58 AM PST by Howlin (Free the Eason Jordan Tape!!!)
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To: Burlem

I'm wondering the same thing. As far as I could tell, the article only mentions that they were previously romantically involved. If the accused is not the father, there certainly are many moot posts on this thread.


90 posted on 02/22/2005 10:38:13 AM PST by Quilla
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To: highflight

"When women are capable of raising children without men, are they then deciding their sons and daughters do not need fathers?"

Well considering he's been charged with murdering her it looks like to me she made the right decision to reject him.


91 posted on 02/22/2005 10:38:26 AM PST by marajade
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To: Semaphore Heathcliffe

You are correct, poor-timing on my part. But really, my patience for women sacrificing their children for loser men is passed the breaking point.


92 posted on 02/22/2005 10:38:27 AM PST by yellowdoghunter (Liberals should be seen and not heard.)
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To: najida

What about this question, 'What is wrong with men in society today?' I mean, for a MAN to kill his unborn child and its mother... what has happened to MEN!?!?!? </sarc>


93 posted on 02/22/2005 10:39:06 AM PST by rintense
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To: truthseeker2
What about a smuck-o-meter?

My Schmuck-o-Meter has been in the danger zone since reading a certain poster's comments here:)

94 posted on 02/22/2005 10:40:41 AM PST by Dolphy
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To: Burlem

From what I have read in other news reports. So now my life is sad for pointing out a glaring problem in todays society. Good Grief!


95 posted on 02/22/2005 10:40:41 AM PST by yellowdoghunter (Liberals should be seen and not heard.)
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To: yellowdoghunter

"But really, my patience for women sacrificing their children for loser men is passed the breaking point.
"

Perhaps, then, you should direct your anger at those "loser men," rather than at the woman who was deceived by one of them.


96 posted on 02/22/2005 10:40:51 AM PST by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: mystery-ak; rintense
It should be one charge of capital murder under the category of killing more than one person in the same criminal transaction.

Neither the murder of Ms. Underwood or of Jayden alone qualify as capital murder by itself (unless they can tie it with another felony such as kidnapping) since Jayden was over six years of age.

It is possible that the death of the unborn child might constitute a capital murder charge by itself; however, that issue has not been litigated in Texas.

The "Laci Peterson" law applies only to federal crimes. Scott Peterson was charged under a similar California state law.

97 posted on 02/22/2005 10:41:07 AM PST by writmeister
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To: yellowdoghunter
But really, my patience for women sacrificing their children for loser men is passed the breaking point.

Yes, that's right. I'm sure the woman practically raped the man to get him to sleep with her, let alone get her pregnant.

You

Make

Me

Sick.

98 posted on 02/22/2005 10:41:31 AM PST by rintense
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To: marajade
Seems to me she found the error of her ways because she rejected him.

Well, not completely. There was a report on a local radio station that she had threatened to expose him to his wife.

Not that this justifies any kind of crime against her, but I'm inclined to think this case involves two people who are screwballs to some degree.

99 posted on 02/22/2005 10:42:07 AM PST by Alberta's Child (I'm not expecting to grow flowers in the desert.)
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To: writmeister

Thanks for the info...but I was just reporting what Fox News said...3 counts of cap murder...unless they were mistaken..


100 posted on 02/22/2005 10:43:35 AM PST by mystery-ak (right handed, left thumb on top)
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