Posted on 02/22/2005 10:09:10 AM PST by Dubya
The truth is sometimes painful.
Maybe it's time for you to stop posting to this thread.
Good map, thanks.
You do not know how to pick a good husband, father, etc....you do not know how to tell a loser from a winner? I know there are always exceptions to that rule, but 98% of the time, if you use good judgement you will pick a good person.
I'm divorced; but I don't much care what people like that think about me. I'm always interested in what "religion" they practice though; I want to be assured it's not mine.
[How was she taking responsibility? By having another child out-of-wedlock with another loser?]
And she did all by her little self? She chose NOT to abort(murder) that child. So he did it for her. Sounds like you might think he had a right to or something???
Time to quit this nonsense. Your offensive posts, which blame the victim for her own death are way past the mark. And your continued defense of your ignorant nonsense makes it worse.
Just cut it out, please!
Was the accused the father of her unborn chld?
"So the mother played no role in getting hooked up with this loser?"
Seems you could say that about any situation. 'She wore fancy clothes, so that's why she was raped'
'who goes to the ATM at midnight, they deserved to get robbed'.
Pretty crazy thinking
Once more, with feeling.
These wrenching, sickening stories are coming too fast, too furious and too often.
I think Yellowdog was just trying to make sense of it all...and perhaps even wondering if these horrible murders could have been avoided...with better judgement.
When women are capable of raising children without men, are they then deciding their sons and daughters do not need fathers? If that is the case then perhaps they are wrong and even selfish.
Ms. Underwood sounds as if she was a wonderful mother and a caring human being and I question why she did not see the need for the same characteristics in a father for her children?
She was providing a stable home for her son. She was co owner of a bagel shop and resided in a house. Neighbors have been interviewed on TV and stated she and her son had a good mother son relationship and that she loved him and provided for him.
I am NOT blaming the victim for her death. I never said that. I am saying that her judgement might have contributed to her death, her son, and her unborn baby.
Deuteronomy 6:20-25 (New International Version)
New International Version (NIV)
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20 In the future, when your son asks you, "What is the meaning of the stipulations, decrees and laws the LORD our God has commanded you?" 21 tell him: "We were slaves of Pharaoh in Egypt, but the LORD brought us out of Egypt with a mighty hand. 22 Before our eyes the LORD sent miraculous signs and wonders-great and terrible-upon Egypt and Pharaoh and his whole household. 23 But he brought us out from there to bring us in and give us the land that he promised on oath to our forefathers. 24 The LORD commanded us to obey all these decrees and to fear the LORD our God, so that we might always prosper and be kept alive, as is the case today. 25 And if we are careful to obey all this law before the LORD our God, as he has commanded us, that will be our righteousness."
Looks like she was working very hard, along with her family, to give her son a good and stable life.
We don't know the story of the relationship that created the baby girl. I will allow that she made a mistake, and was willing to work through it.
No mistake is worth a mother's life, though, and certainly not her children's lives.
Her aunt said that they all learned that he got married recently. Who knows what lies he fed her. Obviously, he has a heart as cold as ice. Gee reminds me of a few folks I've met on Internet forums. :-/
Prayers for her, her children and her family.
Pinz
I'm having a hard time judging this woman myself. She owned her own business. It sounds like she was a loving, involved mother. Yes, she was irresponsible in having unprotected sex with a man that she wasn't married to, but that doesn't mean that she knew that the guy was a psycho. Sometimes people can appear to be stable and over time it becomes apparent that they're not. Maybe that's why he was an "ex" boyfriend.
Reasonable assertion, piss-poor timing.
They don't know yet. Supposedly DNA are currently being performed to make that determination.
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