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To: MineralMan

I am NOT blaming the victim for her death. I never said that. I am saying that her judgement might have contributed to her death, her son, and her unborn baby.


73 posted on 02/22/2005 10:35:02 AM PST by yellowdoghunter (Liberals should be seen and not heard.)
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To: yellowdoghunter
I am saying that her judgement might have contributed to her death, her son, and her unborn baby.

Reasonable assertion, piss-poor timing.

78 posted on 02/22/2005 10:36:42 AM PST by Semaphore Heathcliffe
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To: yellowdoghunter

Here are your own words:

"This case is very sad. Too bad the mother did not provide a stable, loving home for that boy. But as you see, she did not use good judgement in picking whom she made kids with. "

None of this was reflected in the story. As it turns out, she had a business, was well-liked, had many friends, and was, apparently providing a stable home. She was murdered.

You have no information, yet you surmise that she was killed because of her own bad judgment. You should be ashamed of yourself.


85 posted on 02/22/2005 10:37:35 AM PST by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: yellowdoghunter
I am NOT blaming the victim for her death. I never said that. I am saying that her judgement might have contributed to her death, her son, and her unborn baby.

I hear ya. Another good example is that New York actress, who taunted her attacker with: "What are you going to do, shoot us?!" DUMB thing to do.

In this case, we're not exactly talking about material that's found only in criminology textbooks. Over the years, how many cop show episodes have been devoted to stories of pregnant women whose lives are ended shortly after threatening to contact their boyfriend's wife? How many episodes of Law & Order alone? I doubt if an accurate tally could be made; this topic has been regurgitated countless times.

Which brings up a further question: Why do we fixate on that particular scenario? Perhaps because it is not governed by logic and reason, but something much more emotional and volatile. So, even though we know that getting into such a situation is a *bad* idea, the lesson is never learned and people continue to believe that those bad things could never happen to them.

As for the perp... "Book him, Danno!"

265 posted on 02/22/2005 11:32:32 AM PST by Charles Martel
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To: yellowdoghunter
I understand completely what you're trying to say.

If she'd kept her legs closed or practiced birth control, she'd be alive...and so would her son.

However, it's a stretch to blame her for doing what 70%+ of African American women are doing....having babies out of wedlock.

Good luck. Seems you've pissed off the entire FR roster.

349 posted on 02/22/2005 12:08:41 PM PST by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon)
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To: yellowdoghunter

And you are right. I don't know why people are hesitant to acknowledge that poor judgement MAY have played a part in this. She seems like a lovely person, loved her son & provided a nice home for him-- however, making the decision twice to have a child outside of marraige shows she made poor choices in the arena of love.

Doesn't mean by any stretch she deserved to die, but PARENTS, we need to be much more careful about the people we allow near our children-- and that would certainly include the people we DATE.


443 posted on 02/22/2005 1:20:54 PM PST by I_like_good_things_too
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