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World on verge of deadly pandemic, U.S. official says
Associated Press ^ | 2/20/05 | Associated Press

Posted on 02/21/2005 3:09:17 PM PST by bitt

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To: builder
"It is his secret plan to solve the Social Security crises.Old people drawing S.S. will be hit the hardest[Sarcasm/off]"

Along the same lines, I've also been surprised at the zeal with which they've gotten after Smokers.

81 posted on 02/21/2005 6:02:27 PM PST by drt1
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To: Judith Anne

In regard to aviun flu combining with other strains - I think I read that one of the ones they are most concerned with is a swine strain, that if that combines with the avian, it would become far easier for it to be tranmitted from animal to human and then from human to human.

I'm not as up on the latest strains as I used to be, but do try to keep semi-up-to-date, just because of the region where I live. Poultry is big business here, particularly chickens.......heck among my closest neighbors are about 150,000 broiler/fryers!!!!

All kidding aside, a mutating strain that could be passed from the poultry to humans would be devastating, in so many ways and in so many places.


82 posted on 02/21/2005 6:05:16 PM PST by Gabz (Anti-smoker gnatzies...small minds buzzing in your business..............SWAT'EM)
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To: Texas Federalist
AHHHH!!!!!! WE'RE ALL GONNA DIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Don't you mean:

AHHHH!!!!!!

WE'RE ALL GONNA DIE

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

83 posted on 02/21/2005 6:07:29 PM PST by newsgatherer
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To: newsgatherer
AHHHH!!!!!! WE'RE ALL GONNA DIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Oh duck a &^ck!!

Wait a minute....That's how it spread!!

84 posted on 02/21/2005 6:11:40 PM PST by eldoradude (When all else fails, vote from the rooftops.)
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To: Gabz

This Avian flu also infects and kills cats (140 tigers at one tiger zoo died of it), ferrets, ducks and geese.

Since swine are often found living side by side with the birds in rural areas of China, that's where almost every year's flu comes from. This Avian flu was originally found in the same Guangdong province where SARS originated, iirc, in 1997. Now it is all over Asia, with human deaths in Cambodia, Viet Nam, etc., a very few of which were human-to-human transmission...it is said to be endemic in Asia, meaning it's everywhere, and irradicable.

Sooner or later, we'll face it.


85 posted on 02/21/2005 6:21:17 PM PST by Judith Anne (Thank you St. Jude for favors granted.)
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To: djf

I have a contact at the CDC and the description of the mood there was "terrified and freaked out" over this. This may be a very big deadly one.


86 posted on 02/21/2005 6:23:48 PM PST by cajungirl (freeps are my peeps.)
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To: tgskunk
or is it caused by eating the meat??

NO,NO,NO.. Never by eaing the meat. This is a virus that can only be spread by contact with living animals. Chicken meat, even from an infected bird would be completely safe to eat. Of course, all poultry must be cooked, never eaten raw. But not because of Avian Flu virus...

87 posted on 02/21/2005 6:25:40 PM PST by John Valentine
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To: DesertWalker

My grandfather died of that flu,,he was sick in the morning and dead by nightfall.My father who was 14 rode his horse all over the parish delivering food and burying the dead. He was 14! It was terrible. My mother was left with her mother and two sibs and not a cent.


88 posted on 02/21/2005 6:25:54 PM PST by cajungirl (freeps are my peeps.)
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To: yankeedame
LOL! And don't forget these other symptoms: -Scratching -Pain in the breast or leg bone -flightiness

Also watch out for other new bird diseases such as a variant of Herpes known as "Chirpes" - it's a new canarial disease and it's untweetable.

89 posted on 02/21/2005 6:25:59 PM PST by eldoradude (When all else fails, vote from the rooftops.)
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To: Fzob

You are right, you are not a virologist and not a doctor. This disease has a high mortality, is affecting other species than birds and they think the victims die so fast that they have missed the early human cases where virus is in feces, blood, saliva and every organ fails. This is nothing to laugh about.


90 posted on 02/21/2005 6:28:41 PM PST by cajungirl (freeps are my peeps.)
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To: bitt

B.S. Don't we have any respect for vectors anymore?


91 posted on 02/21/2005 6:29:12 PM PST by Old Professer (As truth and fiction blend in the Mixmaster of History almost any sauce can be made palatable.)
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To: My Favorite Headache

Does you head swell up when you encounter a particularly hard wall?


92 posted on 02/21/2005 6:30:41 PM PST by Old Professer (As truth and fiction blend in the Mixmaster of History almost any sauce can be made palatable.)
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To: bitt; abbi_normal_2; Ace2U; adam_az; Alamo-Girl; Alas; alfons; alphadog; AMDG&BVMH; amom; ...
Rights, farms, environment ping.
Let me know if you wish to be added or removed from this list.
I don't get offended if you want to be removed.
93 posted on 02/21/2005 6:31:31 PM PST by farmfriend ( Congratulations. You are everything we've come to expect from years of government training.)
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To: cajungirl

Here we are to consider a disease with a little understood etiology and an undetermined epidemiology and we are to gain by going into a state of panic?


94 posted on 02/21/2005 6:32:15 PM PST by Old Professer (As truth and fiction blend in the Mixmaster of History almost any sauce can be made palatable.)
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To: cajungirl

have there been any US cases yet? I imagine it would pop up on the west coast first, lots of flights to Asia from those cities. I really worry it could come into the US through infected clothing - so much apparel is made in chinese factories and imported and placed on the shelves in US stores.


95 posted on 02/21/2005 6:33:00 PM PST by oceanview
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To: djf
I try to keep my ear to the ground when it comes to emerging diseases. This one could be bad. Very, very bad.

I agree. You should read The Hot Zone, the true story of the Marburg/Ebola outbreaks in Africa.

96 posted on 02/21/2005 6:34:46 PM PST by Paul_Denton (The UN is UN-American! Get the UN out of the US and US out of the UN!)
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To: oceanview

No western cases yet, at all.


97 posted on 02/21/2005 6:34:54 PM PST by Judith Anne (Thank you St. Jude for favors granted.)
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To: bitt

My grandfather, a Serbian immingrant, was in the US Army in 1918. He ws the only one in his company not to get the flu. Nearly all of them died. The doctors poked and probed him to find out why he never got sick. He told him it was all the garlic he ate. He was serious.


98 posted on 02/21/2005 6:35:02 PM PST by MomwithHope
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To: oceanview

I saw a blurb about a possible case on West Coast but nothing else, I will find out. I thinkk I did read of 5 cases in Taiwan. What my cdc person says is that they think they have missed the early human cases because they were all looking for a respiratory death but the entire body is affected and it is really bad. I will get an update. And CDC does send out surveillance papers.


99 posted on 02/21/2005 6:38:11 PM PST by cajungirl (freeps are my peeps.)
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To: Old Professer

I am not suggesting panic but the CDC is very very worried about this. I lived thru the ppolio epidemics when there was no vaccine and nobody panicked.

I don't see panic, I see legitimate concern and a high level of it. Seems appropriate to me.

The etiology of this disease is known, a virus. The mode of transmission, in all possibilities , is known. What is not known is what would happen with person to person transmission. Would it get worse or would the virus get less mischievous.


100 posted on 02/21/2005 6:40:52 PM PST by cajungirl (freeps are my peeps.)
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