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When Are You Guys Going to Get It?
LA Times ^ | February 13, 2005 | Deborah Blum

Posted on 02/20/2005 3:32:14 PM PST by neverdem

GENDER STUDIES

In Victorian times, scientists argued that women's brains were too small to be fully human. On the intelligence scale, researchers recommended classifying human females with gorillas.

The great 19th century neuroanatomist Paul Broca didn't see the situation as quite so dire, but he warned his colleagues that women were not capable of being as smart as men, "a difference that we should not exaggerate, but which is nonetheless real."

The president of Harvard University suggested that a lack of "innate ability" might help explain why women couldn't keep up with men in fields like math and science … oh, wait, that one happened just last month.

Hold for a minute — OK — while I dig out my corset and bustle.

If that sounds snotty, I mean it to be.

I, for one, am ready to leave the 19th century behind. Harvard President Lawrence H. Summers can apologize all he wants, but the fact is that — from a position of power — he felt comfortable speculating about women's inadequate intelligence and ignoring years worth of science that proved him wrong.

I don't find that excusable. Period.

And I wonder why we women are so willing to tolerate this kind of behavior.

Summers raised the issue of women's lesser capabilities in an economic conference in Cambridge, Mass., in mid-January. And the most consistent response from women — the one still resonating across the country — is defensiveness.

A litany of female scholars quote studies proving that, yes, we girls can do long division, actually understand a chemical formula, comprehend a physical law or two and not only become professional scientists but do good work.

In fact, when allowed, women have done excellent science for decades, even since the corset-and-bustle days. The physicist Marie Curie won....

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; News/Current Events; US: California; US: Massachusetts
KEYWORDS: academia; genetics; larrysummers; sexdifferences; summers
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To: Judith Anne


So I suppose she wouldn't have to attend class then?


361 posted on 02/20/2005 6:11:36 PM PST by LauraleeBraswell ( CONSERVATIVE FIRST-Republican second.)
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To: k2blader

Why would I be talking about a "right" reason? Must there only be one "right" reason? I thought this was a free country.


362 posted on 02/20/2005 6:11:56 PM PST by ValerieUSA
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To: ValerieUSA

I'll have to tell my daughter that then.

Obviously going to college so she can get a GOOD job and make something of herself is something has never crossed her mind

RME.


Have you ever gone yourself?


363 posted on 02/20/2005 6:12:09 PM PST by Neets
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To: aplacetostand

Women practice languages MUCH more than men. Go dispute THAT!!!


364 posted on 02/20/2005 6:12:15 PM PST by NCLaw441
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To: LauraleeBraswell

Who are you to decide what is a waste of another person's money?


365 posted on 02/20/2005 6:12:40 PM PST by ValerieUSA
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To: k2blader

It's called tap dancing, back tracking, taking comments out of context, all that kind of stuff.


366 posted on 02/20/2005 6:13:01 PM PST by Neets
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To: Neets

Read my posts and tell me where I am wrong.


367 posted on 02/20/2005 6:13:16 PM PST by ValerieUSA
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To: Neets

No, that is found in the original article and in the long string of Braswell's posts. I have been consistent.


368 posted on 02/20/2005 6:14:10 PM PST by ValerieUSA
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To: Dianna


College education is not wasted on the woman who stays home and raises babies.


369 posted on 02/20/2005 6:14:38 PM PST by LauraleeBraswell ( CONSERVATIVE FIRST-Republican second.)
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To: ValerieUSA

So you honestly think colleges exist because they're great places to party?


370 posted on 02/20/2005 6:14:55 PM PST by k2blader (It is neither compassionate nor conservative to support the expansion of socialism.)
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To: k2blader

Oh yeah, that's exactly what I said.
You are a waste of time.


371 posted on 02/20/2005 6:16:02 PM PST by ValerieUSA
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To: Dianna


You went to college to get an education and hopefully meet a husband.

Have you ever seen Mona Lisa Smile?


372 posted on 02/20/2005 6:16:24 PM PST by LauraleeBraswell ( CONSERVATIVE FIRST-Republican second.)
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To: Diva Betsy Ross
Ouch. But it is true.

And to make matters worse, women outnumber us guys and they still need help to be equal.

373 posted on 02/20/2005 6:16:43 PM PST by Age of Reason
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To: k2blader
"So you honestly think colleges exist because they're great places to party?"

They're not? So "Animal House" wasn't a documentary? Damn.

374 posted on 02/20/2005 6:16:43 PM PST by A Navy Vet
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To: A Navy Vet
Yeah, but, y'know...

By the time I got through with my sales pitch to the lead engineer at the tech center, those dang plagerists had stole that idea, and installed it on my truck!

I swear, they will go to any lengths, to steal a good idea.

;)

375 posted on 02/20/2005 6:16:52 PM PST by patton (Matthew 6:6)
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To: Neets

You're jumping in a little late in the game to make such an expert pronouncement.


376 posted on 02/20/2005 6:17:21 PM PST by ValerieUSA
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To: Plutarch

Whoa! If more women like that played chess i probably would of stuck with it!


377 posted on 02/20/2005 6:17:36 PM PST by chudogg (www.chudogg.blogspot.com)
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To: ValerieUSA

My daughter is in college. A community college right here in town.

My son's girlfriend goes to the same college.

My daughter has a few highschool friends in the same college.

Whenever I hear them talking about school, they are discussing what they are studying, what their career plans are, etc.

I'll grant you that some kids go to for the Party aspect, but I think they are few and far between. OF course if there is a party, I don't expect them not to go.

In fact, my daughter is trying to convince HER boyfriend HE should go to college so he can get a better job.

You are just flat out wrong to assert that MOST people go for the reasons you state.


378 posted on 02/20/2005 6:17:42 PM PST by Neets
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To: ValerieUSA

Not really.

I have been reading along,and all without a college degree.


379 posted on 02/20/2005 6:18:20 PM PST by Neets
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To: ValerieUSA


It costs thousands of dollars now just to meet a husband! Woah!


380 posted on 02/20/2005 6:18:39 PM PST by LauraleeBraswell ( CONSERVATIVE FIRST-Republican second.)
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