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American media vs the blogs
BBC ^ | 02/19/05 | BBC

Posted on 02/19/2005 12:16:20 PM PST by Pikamax

American media vs the blogs By Kevin Anderson BBC News Website, Washington

Eason Jordan came under blog-based scrutiny for comments at Davos Bloggers. Truth-tellers or vigilantes? Trophy-hunters or watchdogs? With the abrupt resignation of CNN chief news executive Eason Jordan, the American media are struggling with how to respond to bloggers.

Some see the bloggers as an explosion of free speech, a democratic counterbalance to media arrogance and a much needed call for greater transparency in the media, while others see bloggers as vigilante partisans bent on discrediting and destroying the media.

Blogswarm

The furore was touched off after bloggers questioned comments Mr Jordan made at the World Economic Forum in Davos Switzerland about journalists killed in Iraq.

At the forum, he said that he believed that several journalists had been targeted by the military.

He was quickly challenged by many at the forum who thought he was implying that it was official US policy to target journalists.

Mr Jordan qualified his statements saying that he was trying to differentiate between journalists who died as a result of being at the wrong place at the wrong time and those who were mistaken for the enemy.

The salivating morons who make up the lynch mob prevail.

Steve Lovelady, managing editor, Columbia Journalism Review World Economic Forum policy is that all sessions are off the record, but blogger Rony Abovitz posted Mr Jordan's comments on a forum sanctioned website.

Bloggers quickly set up a site calling for a release a transcript of the session, and Mr Jordan found himself in the middle of a blogswarm as the online pressure intensified.

Mr Jordan attempted to qualify his comments publicly, but it was too late, and Mr Jordan abruptly resigned.

Bloggers and MSM trade blows

But the mainstream media -the MSM in blog shorthand - fired back at the bloggers calling them "trophy hunters" and a "pseudo-journalist lynch mob".

In a segment called "Old Media Lost in Blogosphere" on MSNBC, left-leaning commentator Bill Press condemned bloggers as people "with no credentials, no sources, no rules, no editors and no accountability."

Steve Lovelady, managing editor of the Columbia Journalism Review wrote: "The salivating morons who make up the lynch mob prevail."

"This convinces me more than ever that Eason Jordan is guilty of one thing, and one thing only - caring for the reporters he sent into battle, and haunted by the fact that not all of them came back," he added.

Will Collier of the Vodkapundit was just one of many bloggers who fired back.

You, and Eason Jordan, and Dan Rather, and anybody else in print or on television don't get free passes because you call yourself 'journalists'

Will Collier, Vodkapundit blogger "We see you behind the curtain, Lovelady and company, and we're not impressed by either your bluster or your insults," he wrote.

"You, and Eason Jordan, and Dan Rather, and anybody else in print or on television don't get free passes because you call yourself 'journalists'," he added.

Dan Rather, long a target of conservatives, is resigning as the anchor of the CBS nightly news after the network could not vouch for the authenticity of documents he used as the basis for a story questioning President Bush's military service.

Minutes after the segment aired, conservative bloggers were calling the documents forgeries and had reproduced convincing copies of the reportedly more than 30-year-old documents using word processing software.

But amid the bluster, Jeff Jarvis, a media executive and the blogger behind Buzzmachine, said most bloggers just wanted more transparency not another big media scalp.

"Bloggers didn't want his head, most of us didn't. We wanted the truth. We wanted to see that transcript from Davos," he said on CNN.

Media for the masses

One thing both bloggers and some journalists can agree on is that business as usual is over in the American media.

"The MSM isn't over. It just can no longer pose as if it is The Guardian of Established Truth," wrote commentator Peggy Noonan in the Wall Street Journal.

Weblogs are just a part of the digital, internet-driven revolution that is sweeping over journalism, Jay Rosen, New York University journalism professor and the blogger behind PressThink, told the BBC.

Suddenly, the tools of mass media are in the hands of the public, he said.

"There is a change in the balance of power," he said. "The ideas and assumptions that journalists held for a long time are up for grabs, open to questions, falling by the wayside."

He suggested that Eason Jordan could have saved his job if he had responded better to calls for more transparency.

He should have granted interviews to bloggers, Mr Rosen said.

And some of the failures are simply down to journalists' lack of understanding of the web, he added.

"If (CBS and Eason Jordan) had been literate at all in the internet, they would have saved themselves a lot of trouble," he said.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: easonjordan; newmedia
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1 posted on 02/19/2005 12:16:20 PM PST by Pikamax
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To: Pikamax
The salivating morons who make up the lynch mob prevail.

They never learn, do they?

2 posted on 02/19/2005 12:20:14 PM PST by Jeff Chandler (The people previously responsible for this tagline have been sacked.)
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To: Jeff Chandler

You gotta just love it....


3 posted on 02/19/2005 12:21:06 PM PST by JoanneSD
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To: Pikamax

The forums, bloggers, and talk radio croud aren't professional and objective like this guy.


4 posted on 02/19/2005 12:21:18 PM PST by Jeff Chandler (The people previously responsible for this tagline have been sacked.)
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To: Jeff Chandler
croud = crowd
5 posted on 02/19/2005 12:22:01 PM PST by Jeff Chandler (The people previously responsible for this tagline have been sacked.)
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To: Pikamax

great post. thanks


6 posted on 02/19/2005 12:22:52 PM PST by andrewwood (andrewwood)
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To: Pikamax

>> "If (CBS and Eason Jordan) had been literate at all in the internet, they would have saved themselves a lot of trouble,"<<

No, it they had stuck to telling the TRUTH, they would have saved themselves a lot of trouble.


7 posted on 02/19/2005 12:24:02 PM PST by sd-joe
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To: Pikamax

Since this is a written report, the logic should be basically linear. Instead, it is disjointed, jumping back and forth. I'll bet this clown has a journalism degree.

BTW, since when has anything a conservative had to say been "off the record"?


8 posted on 02/19/2005 12:26:35 PM PST by Jeff Chandler (The people previously responsible for this tagline have been sacked.)
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To: Jeff Chandler

Note that Anderson didn't say that, but Lovelady did. The BBC page layout didn't "translate" very well.


9 posted on 02/19/2005 12:28:20 PM PST by JoJo Gunn (More than two lawyers in any Country constitutes a terrorist organization. ©)
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To: JoJo Gunn

Then I take it back and dish it to Lovelady.


10 posted on 02/19/2005 12:30:57 PM PST by Jeff Chandler (The people previously responsible for this tagline have been sacked.)
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To: Pikamax

11 posted on 02/19/2005 12:34:22 PM PST by BJungNan (Please stand by while I think up a new one...)
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To: Pikamax
How many bomb-throwing strikes does a nuanced propagandist get?

Eason Jordan was on blogger's nuke row. His time was up.

12 posted on 02/19/2005 12:34:51 PM PST by PGalt
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To: Pikamax
But the mainstream media -the MSM in blog shorthand - fired back at the bloggers calling them "trophy hunters" and a "pseudo-journalist lynch mob".

Trent Lott, Jimmy the Greek, Rush Limbaugh,...

13 posted on 02/19/2005 12:39:03 PM PST by groanup (http://www.fairtax.org)
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To: Pikamax

""The MSM isn't over. It just can no longer pose as if it is The Guardian of Established Truth," wrote commentator Peggy Noonan in the Wall Street Journal.

Weblogs are just a part of the digital, internet-driven revolution that is sweeping over journalism, Jay Rosen, New York University journalism professor and the blogger behind PressThink, told the BBC.

Suddenly, the tools of mass media are in the hands of the public, he said.

"There is a change in the balance of power," he said. "The ideas and assumptions that journalists held for a long time are up for grabs, open to questions, falling by the wayside." "

The old (mainstream) media won't like this but they are blogs too. Everything said and recorded is a blog -- whether they want it to be or not. The bar has been raised; no take-backs, no gimmes. What you see is what is.

If we wrote in the journalistic style, we would always be promising a great truth or great revelation without ever feeling an obligation of delivering; the point is just to get you reading, wasting your time and energy -- as though that were a great accomplishment, the ultimate display of one's prowess and power. That's the old world of writing to impress -- instead of writing to communicate, and that's why today's bloggers can be so effective; they're writing to communicate -- and not to impress.

Those writing to impress, in contrast, seem Rather foolish these days -- still hoping by their bluster, their righteous indignation, their moral outrage, to fool those remaining that their opinion matters and they have a rightful place at the top of the hierarchy, even above the president or the pope. As long as they could eliminate everybody else's opinions, they could claim to be the voice of the people, speaking for the people. Power like that is hard to give up; it usually has to be pried from their bloody, cold, dead fingers. We hoped their would be another way -- but they gave us no choice. The only intelligent option they offered us was their termination. And the world is a better place for it.


14 posted on 02/19/2005 12:42:47 PM PST by MikeHu
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To: Pikamax

To all:

http://www.townhall.com/columnists/thomassowell/ts20050218.shtml


15 posted on 02/19/2005 12:44:50 PM PST by groanup (http://www.fairtax.org)
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To: groanup

Sowell once again doesn't disappoint.


16 posted on 02/19/2005 12:51:28 PM PST by JoJo Gunn (More than two lawyers in any Country constitutes a terrorist organization. ©)
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To: Pikamax
The more shrill the attacks, the more damgae we are inflicting Exposing the Left
17 posted on 02/19/2005 12:52:14 PM PST by traderrob6 (http://www.exposingtheleft.blogspot.com)
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To: MikeHu
Those writing to impress, in contrast, seem Rather foolish these days -- still hoping by their bluster, their righteous indignation, their moral outrage, to fool those remaining that their opinion matters and they have a rightful place at the top of the hierarchy, even above the president or the pope. As long as they could eliminate everybody else's opinions, they could claim to be the voice of the people, speaking for the people. Power like that is hard to give up; it usually has to be pried from their bloody, cold, dead fingers. We hoped their would be another way -- but they gave us no choice. The only intelligent option they offered us was their termination. And the world is a better place for it.

Beautifully written!

18 posted on 02/19/2005 12:54:33 PM PST by marktwain
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To: Pikamax
So the writer at the BBC distills one of the more complex issues of our time to an eighth-grade level. Meanwhile, Congressman Billybob has corresponded with Lovelady with a back-and-forth on the subject, with color commentary by other freepers.

So, once again, the MSM trails the parade.

19 posted on 02/19/2005 12:54:37 PM PST by dirtboy (Drooling moron since 1998...)
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To: Pikamax; Congressman Billybob
Confessions of a "Salivating Moron"

And while we're at it, Congressman Billybob - I think your screen name is out of date. We should start calling you Congressman Billyblog...

20 posted on 02/19/2005 12:59:44 PM PST by dirtboy (Drooling moron since 1998...)
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