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To: RaceBannon
More Creatinoid misrepresntation and oversimplification
13.) Lucy has been compared to modem pygmy chimpanzees. Paleontologist Adrienne Zihlman, Univ. of Cal at Santa Cruz:( Lucy's fossil remains match up remarkably well with the bones of a pygmy chimp,(although there are some differences)). Adrienne Zihlman, "Pygmy chimps and pundits", New Scientist Vol 104 #1430 Nov 15, 1984 P.39-40
Creationists have been compared to charlatans and conmen

What Zihlmans work really entails

Zihlman, who joined the UCSC faculty in 1967, began her career studying locomotion and became an expert in primate anatomy as she analyzed the underpinnings of how animals get around. The changes that occurred when our ancestors began walking upright account for the biggest anatomical differences between ancient apes and early humans.

"Bipedalism and the structures that go with it are the defining features of early humans," says Zihlman. "It's what separated us from the apes. If you really understand functional anatomy and living apes, you can make some pretty good guesses about the early hominids."

It was Zihlman's groundbreaking work on chimp anatomy, combined with her study of fossils, that prompted her and three colleagues to propose in 1978 that pygmy chimps are the best living model of a common ancestor of African apes and humans. The hypothesis, based in part on the pygmy chimp's heavy lower limbs and ready bipedalism, drew a lot of criticism from her peers. But Zihlman takes satisfaction today in the fact that many of these critics have since come to respect this point of view.

Zihlman's comparisons of the tissue weights of the upper and lower limbs of gorillas, pygmy chimps, and humans. The large-bodied quadrupedal gorilla has almost equal amounts of weight in its arms and legs; the smaller pygmy chimp, which is more bipedally oriented than the other African apes, has considerably more weight in its lower limbs than its arms; and the bipedal human has a dramatically higher proportion of weight in its legs than the chimp or gorilla.

In 1982, Zihlman published an illustration of Lucy's left side juxtaposed with the right side of a pygmy chimp. That image clearly showed the parallels between the early human fossil remains and pygmy chimps. "It was so dramatic, you couldn't deny that our early ancestors were chimplike," says Zihlman.


128 posted on 02/19/2005 6:13:23 PM PST by Oztrich Boy ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free")
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To: Oztrich Boy
In 1982, Zihlman published an illustration of Lucy's left side juxtaposed with the right side of a pygmy chimp. That image clearly showed the parallels between the early human fossil remains and pygmy chimps. "It was so dramatic, you couldn't deny that our early ancestors were chimplike," says Zihlman.

All it did was prove that the small ape that people call Lucy looks like a Pygmy Chimp.

There is NO EVIDENCE that Lucy is a transitional form in any reality, only in the minds of evolutionary thought.

It is not a FACT, only a guess, and a bad one at that, because since you posted it here for all to see, ets repeat it again:

That image clearly showed the parallels between the early human fossil remains and pygmy chimps

That man put the bones of an ape like creeature next to an ape like creature, and said not because of any fact, but because he believes in evolution that therefore, humans looked like pygmy chimps a long time ago!

Evolution is such a fun theory, you can think of any zany theory like microbes on meteors to aliens with a mission to populate the univers, but if someone says, "In the Beginning, God..."

134 posted on 02/19/2005 6:47:29 PM PST by RaceBannon ((Prov 28:1 KJV) The wicked flee when no man pursueth: but the righteous are bold as a lion.)
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