[frgoff]

This page shows the mousetrap is not irreducibly complex:

Really? Oddly, I see all the elements of the mouse trap in the first diagram.

1. Base - the floor
2. trigger - the tensioned state of the wires
3. Hammer - the stressed wire

Now, let's actually remove one of the components. Let's remove the tension on the wire (this actually removes two components, the trigger and the hammer.)

Guess what? You no longer have a mouse trap. Removing a component causes catastrohpic failure of the system, just like IC predicts.

All this website does is illustrate a different mouse trap design. All the elements are still there.

This is simply another example of someone not getting irreducible complexity. They think the form of the design is the complexity, not realizing it's the functional elements of the design that is the complexity.

[orionblamblam]

> Guess what? You no longer have a mouse trap

That's right. You have something *else*.

You have just debunked the "irreducible complexity" arguement.

[orionblamblam]

> Guess what? You no longer have a mouse trap

That's right. You have something *else*.

You have just debunked the "irreducible complexity" arguement.

[RobRoy]

Stop it! The whole argument against the irreduceably complex mousetrap is a straw man designed to confuse the issue. Don't go for the bait. 8^>