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Couple take lumps since cookie suit
Denver Post ^ | Feb. 17, 2005 | Electa Draper

Posted on 02/17/2005 9:21:26 AM PST by kemathen7

Durango - Herb Young turned the telephone off again Tuesday after it rang at 12:40 a.m.

One recent caller had told him that "you should be found dead in a ditch."

Nine out of 10 calls to his house are from "crackpots," he said, ever since a plate of cookies and a case in La Plata County Small Claims Court turned life upside down.

(Excerpt) Read more at denverpost.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Colorado
KEYWORDS: attackofkillercookie; colorado; cookiecrumbles; cookies; nogooddeedunpunished; paybacksahillary; psycholady
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To: iconoclast

DOH.

I fell trap to the double negative. Thanks for catching that. Meant to say people think the girls ARE lucky they weren't shot.


301 posted on 02/17/2005 2:35:01 PM PST by kemathen7
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To: cyncooper; .38sw
I should add, as could you and others who find the need to attack other posters for a different pov.

Sure CC, you're notorious for jumping in with off the wall opinions and then p'ing and moaning when you're called on them.

302 posted on 02/17/2005 2:40:32 PM PST by iconoclast (Can anyone direct me to any place in our founding documents where "democracy" is mentioned?)
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To: kemathen7

I thought that was what you meant. ;o)


303 posted on 02/17/2005 2:42:04 PM PST by iconoclast (Can anyone direct me to any place in our founding documents where "democracy" is mentioned?)
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To: iconoclast

Hiya!


304 posted on 02/17/2005 2:45:43 PM PST by cyncooper
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To: GraceCoolidge; All

"Except if you read on, it looks like there were two conditions: 1. seeing the bill (makes sense to me that they would want proof of the expense before paying it), and 2. the woman had to agree not to sue for additional money. The second condition also makes sense, otherwise paying could, I think, be seen as automatic admission of liability and, rather than resolving the issue, would open the door to more damages. Both of those conditions seem reasonable to me..."

But here is the rub, as soon as you treat the issue as a legal issue with contracts to sign, the signing party may feel that the issue goes beyond families solving a private fuss and it enters the legal realm. I think the the "cookie" kook was probably legally correct in involving the local small claims court as a means of preserving her rights and having an official record. I don't think it was a question of the medical bills, they are easy to prove. In the end, the court did what the families should have done privately and moved on from, made the families pay the medical bills with the aggrieved party agreeing not to hold any further damages against them.

Now the families of the girls are flapping their wings like wounded birds, trying to heap shame and negative public opinion on the woman who actually had the harm done to her. The cookie "kook" may now have a case for public harrassment and loss of income be cause the Ostergaards, et al didn't know when to "Shut Up"! and take their lumps!

Now I'm sure the teens them-selves meant no real harm in their "random act of kindness", but I may not mean to hurt an old man if I accidentally knock him down. Yet, guess who is going to pay his unpaid medical bills...ME!

The lady was alone, and scared, prone to anxiety attacks. Its a dark night, and kids ringing door bells and running away have provoked some folks to even shoot at them. The lady thinks she is having a heart attack and goes to the ER. The girls and their families are culpable, despite some folks feelings about anxiety disorders as being beneath discussion.

100 years ago, the families would have settled on it verbally. Now every-one wants to be a lawyer or use one.


What's worse, the Cookie "kook", may now have a legitimate claim of public harrassment...starting with Mike Savage!



305 posted on 02/17/2005 2:56:54 PM PST by mdmathis6 (By playing the Devil's advocate, one can often separate self from the Devil!)
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To: Mathemagician
That's why I suspect you're a city girl imagining what it's like in the county. An armed person, who knows the neighbors, and knows that crime is vanishingly rare, isn't exactly terrified or quick on the trigger. If there are weird noises outside, the average rural person assumes that either a cow got out, racoons are up to no good, or kids are playing pranks. They do not run out the back door shootin'. Shoutin', maybe.

Yes, indeed, but most rural folks do not hide their car so that it was not visible in the driveway, ring the doorbell and hide. The woman saw the shadow of a person. I am not a city girl. I know that most folks in rural areas have more sense than to pull a prank such as these girls.

If you are a rural resident, you should realize that there is a lot of crazy meth users in rural areas as well as the city. Sorry, but your little scenerio of a safe rural haven is bogus.

By the way, no guns were involved in this episode.

306 posted on 02/17/2005 3:01:53 PM PST by Conservababe
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To: mdmathis6

At home with a group of THREE people is "alone"?


307 posted on 02/17/2005 3:06:40 PM PST by Politicalmom (Giving money and power to government is like giving whiskey and car keys to teenage boys.")
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To: Ann Archy; dts32041; BushisTheMan
Man...we are alone on this thread.

yep, all three alone together.

309 posted on 02/17/2005 3:38:28 PM PST by Oztrich Boy (Here to help)
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To: kemathen7
Too stupid to learn.

Hasn't changed the phone number.

STILL blames "the cookies".

"All this over cookies," Renea [Wanita] Young said.

Still bleats to the press her side hasn't been properly presented, then adds NOTHING to "her side".

I have several hammers of various sizes & types, and ALL of them are smarter than "Cookie Monster" & her hubby.

310 posted on 02/17/2005 4:02:48 PM PST by ApplegateRanch (The world needs more horses, and fewer Jackasses!)
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To: justshutupandtakeit; BushisTheMan
I don't believe anyone was hiding in the shadows particularly for any malevolent purpose

The girls have said they delivered the cookies to all the houses by knocking on the door firmly three times, then promptly leaving, so the recipient would be surprised by finding fresh cookies when they opened the door. Rather than finding the crumbs the racoons left, in the morning.

As they have credibilty on this, I believe them, rather than the crazy lady who has been determined, medically and legally, to have an over-active and paranoid imagination.

311 posted on 02/17/2005 4:10:19 PM PST by Oztrich Boy (Here to help)
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To: BushisTheMan
Nice excuse on the parents part. But in the end the court said they had to pay...and likely didn't make her sign the agreement (at least I haven't read that the court did that anyway).

The court dismissed her claims for pain and suffering and emotional damage. That's as got as saying she should have signed the waiver - which is now moot as she's had her day in court.

313 posted on 02/17/2005 4:16:40 PM PST by Oztrich Boy (Here to help)
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To: Mathemagician
"I'm sorry, ma'am, but it looks like the calling card of the 'Free Cookie Bandits'. If you don't want to be murdered in your sleep, I suggest you hurry up and get out of Dodge. You see, these here cookies are just the tip of the iceberg..." which I'll take as evidence"
314 posted on 02/17/2005 4:36:11 PM PST by Oztrich Boy (Here to help)
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To: Politicalmom

"Renea Young was alone in her isolated country home with her daughter and ailing elderly mother. Her husband was out of town."

I'll let the direct quote from the article better explain it!

A nervous mom, a school age daughter and sick mother out in the country in the dark.

A knock on the door, skulking shadows, and husband not at home. (Many Freepers would have been advocating shooting first and asking questions later.) She gets anxiety attack and chest pains, maybe a potential MI. She goes to hospitial, bills are generated.

I know the teens didn't mean any real harm, which is the shame of it...but harm was done.



315 posted on 02/17/2005 4:39:21 PM PST by mdmathis6 (By playing the Devil's advocate, one can often separate self from the Devil!)
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To: BushisTheMan

Amen....Mike Gallagher is not nearly the smart conservative that I thought he was.....sad.


316 posted on 02/17/2005 4:42:11 PM PST by Ann Archy (Abortion: The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: mdmathis6

Oh my ! What if the wind blows and something goes bump in the night? Who will she sue then?


317 posted on 02/17/2005 4:49:33 PM PST by csvset
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To: mdmathis6

Good post. I agree.


318 posted on 02/17/2005 4:49:49 PM PST by Judith Anne (Thank you St. Jude for favors granted.)
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To: BushisTheMan
You mean someone reasonable and not hateful?

Nope

319 posted on 02/17/2005 4:54:04 PM PST by saminfl
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To: mdmathis6

Also starting with Mike Gallagher.


320 posted on 02/17/2005 4:56:07 PM PST by Ann Archy (Abortion: The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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