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NASA Researchers Claim Evidence of Present Life on Mars
Drudge Report | 16 Feb | edcoil

Posted on 02/16/2005 12:45:39 PM PST by edcoil

Exclusive: NASA Researchers Claim Evidence of Present Life on Mars By Brian Berger Space News Staff Writer posted: 16 February 2005 02:09 pm ET

WASHINGTON -- A pair of NASA scientists told a group of space officials at a private meeting here Sunday that they have found strong evidence that life may exist today on Mars, hidden away in caves and sustained by pockets of water.

The scientists, Carol Stoker and Larry Lemke of NASA’s Ames Research Center in Silicon Valley, told the group that they have submitted their findings to the journal Nature for publication in May, and their paper currently is being peer reviewed.

What Stoker and Lemke have found, according to several attendees of the private meeting, is not direct proof of life on Mars, but methane signatures and other signs of possible biological activity remarkably similar to those recently discovered in caves here on Earth.

Stoker and other researchers have long theorized that the Martian subsurface could harbor biological organisms that have developed unusual strategies for existing in extreme environments. That suspicion led Stoker and a team of U.S. and Spanish researchers in 2003 to southwestern Spain to search for subsurface life near the Rio Tinto river—so-called because of its reddish tint—the product of iron being dissolved in its highly acidic water.

Stoker did not respond to messages left Tuesday on her voice mail at Ames.

Stoker told SPACE.com in 2003, weeks before leading the expedition to southwestern Spain, that by studying the very acidic Rio Tinto, she and other scientists hoped to characterize the potential for a “chemical bioreactor” in the subsurface – an underground microbial ecosystem of sorts that might well control the chemistry of the surface environment.

Making such a discovery at Rio Tinto, Stoker said in 2003, would mean uncovering a new, previously uncharacterized metabolic strategy for living in the subsurface. “For that reason, the search for life in the Rio Tinto is a good analog for searching for life on Mars,” she said.

Stoker told her private audience Sunday evening that by comparing discoveries made at Rio Tinto with data collected by ground-based telescopes and orbiting spacecraft, including the European Space Agency’s Mars Express, she and Lemke have made a very a strong case that life exists below Mars’ surface.

The two scientists, according to sources at the Sunday meeting, based their case in part on Mars’ fluctuating methane signatures that could be a sign of an active underground biosphere and nearby surface concentrations of the sulfate jarosite, a mineral salt found on Earth in hot springs and other acidic bodies of water like Rio Tinto that have been found to harbor life despite their inhospitable environments.

One of NASA’s Mars Exploration Rovers, Opportunity, bolstered the case for water on Mars when it discovered jarosite and other mineral salts on a rocky outcropping in Merdiani Planum, the intrepid rover’s landing site chosen because scientists believe the area was once covered by salty sea.

Stoker and Lemke’s research could lead the search for Martian biology underground, where standing water would help account for the curious methane signatures the two have been analyzing.

“They are desperate to find out what could be producing the methane,” one attendee told Space News. “Their answer is drill, drill, drill.”

NASA has no firm plans for sending a drill-equipped lander to Mars, but the agency is planning to launch a powerful new rover in 2009 that could help shed additional light on Stoker and Lemke’s intriguing findings. Dubbed the Mars Science Laboratory, the nuclear-powered rover will range farther than any of its predecessors and will be carrying an advanced mass spectrometer to sniff out methane with greater sensitivity than any instrument flown to date.

In 1996 a team of NASA and Stanford University researchers created a stir when they published findings that meteorites recovered from the Allen Hills region of Antarctica contained evidence of possible past life on Mars. Those findings remain controversial, with many researchers unconvinced that those meteorites held even possible evidence that very primitive microbial life had once existed on Mars.


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KEYWORDS: artbell; coasttocoast; mars
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To: boomop1

You are soooo right!


21 posted on 02/16/2005 1:09:15 PM PST by battlecry
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To: edcoil
Don't let them kid you! The have photographic evidence, too. Just look!



22 posted on 02/16/2005 1:10:49 PM PST by Lady Jag (All I want is a kind word, a warm bed, and unlimited power)
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To: edcoil
...strong evidence that life may exist...

Yep, that confirms it! Break out the bottle of dust and we'll toast to this Tutor Turtle moment in time.

But Mr. Wizard... "Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh".

23 posted on 02/16/2005 1:12:25 PM PST by DoughtyOne (US socialist liberalism would be dead without the help of politicians who claim to be conservative.)
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To: edcoil
NASA Researchers Claim Evidence of Present Life on Mars

They still haven't proved to me that there is any evidence of intelligent life at NASA.

24 posted on 02/16/2005 1:21:40 PM PST by ravingnutter
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To: DannyTN

"I still don't understand why trace amounts of methane on Mars means life, but oceans of methane on Titan are natural."

You beat me to it. But, I suppose the stock answer has something to do with distance from the sun, temperature, etc.

Perhaps Mars has a significant number of underground cows?


25 posted on 02/16/2005 1:24:46 PM PST by ColoCdn (Neco eos omnes, Deus suos agnoset)
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To: w6ai5q37b

I've no doubt. "Maybe" is maybe not worth alerting the media....unless you're trying to drum up support!


26 posted on 02/16/2005 1:27:03 PM PST by anniegetyourgun
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To: Cornpone

Thanks for the ping. This is very interesting.


27 posted on 02/16/2005 1:28:48 PM PST by farmfriend ( Congratulations. You are everything we've come to expect from years of government training.)
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To: Gefreiter
"If there is life on Mars, how do we go about exploring the planet without having a negative impact on that life? "

It's a big planet. Any impact we have will be negligible.

28 posted on 02/16/2005 1:30:13 PM PST by DannyTN
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To: ColoCdn

ROFL at the image of flatulent Martian cows living underground! If only Bessie could've held that one in, we'd have never found them!


29 posted on 02/16/2005 1:47:18 PM PST by BMIC
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To: thoughtomator

Who is the person in the picture with Sean?


30 posted on 02/16/2005 1:49:36 PM PST by bbbumble
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To: BMIC

I can see the Martians hiding in their little caves as the Rovers pass by:

"Yornlkt, shut up. They're getting closer."
"I'm being quiet, Bcvinq, you shut up."
"No, you shut up."
"You shut up."
"No, you."
"You."

"Who farted? Oh, crap, the little thing with wheels just stopped!!! Way to go Yornlkt, you moron. There goes the neighborhood."


31 posted on 02/16/2005 1:52:46 PM PST by ColoCdn (Neco eos omnes, Deus suos agnoset)
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To: bbbumble

No idea, I was just making a joke.


32 posted on 02/16/2005 1:56:30 PM PST by thoughtomator (If Islam is a religion, so is Liberal!)
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To: edcoil
NASA Researchers Claim Evidence of Present Life on Mars

They must have found a sign that read "Future site of a Wal*Mart Supercenter"
33 posted on 02/16/2005 2:03:11 PM PST by armyman (I'm may not agree with what you say, but I will sacrifice everything to defend your right to say it.)
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To: thoughtomator

I thought that was Jeri Ryan without make up.


34 posted on 02/16/2005 2:12:16 PM PST by BurbankKarl
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To: DannyTN

Methane could be supplied by three sources: comet impact, volcanism and bacteria. Titan is thought to be geologically active, whereas Mars thought to be geologially inactive. On Mars, methane quickly oxidizes into water and carbon dioxide. Any detectable amount would need to be continuously replenished. On the other hand, Titan has an atmosphere which is neutral to oxidization or reduction, which would allow levels to build up over time.


35 posted on 02/16/2005 2:14:36 PM PST by Liberal Classic (No better friend, no worse enemy. Semper Fi.)
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To: edcoil; grizzfan; Lori675; dennisw; JennysCool; lainie; bd476; olde north church; Cheapskate; ...

Coast to Coast Ping List

Note: Richard Hoaglund described this a while ago...and said NASA was sitting on it.

36 posted on 02/16/2005 2:14:45 PM PST by BurbankKarl
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To: edcoil

Must be budget review time for NASA.


37 posted on 02/16/2005 2:19:05 PM PST by Perdogg (Rumsfeld for President - 2008)
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To: edcoil
Actually, given that there is still water trapped underneath the surface of the Martian soil, I think chances are good that low-level microbes--though at most up to bacteria level--are still living off the subsurface water and nutrients in the soil. This is based on the discovery of low-level life forms in places on Earth that technically should not support life, such as near deep-sea vents, in the polar regions, and deep underground.

This will push forward the inclusion of very sophisticated bioscience experiments on the Mars Science Laboratory lander that will arrive on Mars in 2009. MSL, unlike the current Mars Exploration Rovers, will be powered by a "nuclear" battery that will allow MSL to run for up to two years after landing. That means MSL could travel well over 200 kilometers (124 miles) during its operational lifetime looking for lifeforms beneath the Martian surface.

38 posted on 02/16/2005 2:21:32 PM PST by RayChuang88
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To: Liberal Classic

Thanks for the explanation.

So where does methane in comets come from?

If volcanism generates methane, that implies, that the mantle has methane. Wouldn't it be logical to assume that there is a slow seepage of methane from the mantle up through the ground?


39 posted on 02/16/2005 2:22:06 PM PST by DannyTN
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To: DannyTN
Here, you might find this article useful on the topic.
40 posted on 02/16/2005 2:26:46 PM PST by SedVictaCatoni (<><)
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