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To: TradicalRC
Truth is not merely subjective or objective, I agree, but no one has a complete grasp on absolute Truth except God.

Then he would be a good place to start, don't you think? And starting with G-d is as clear a difference between the French Revolution and the American Revolution as anyone can point to - besides the result. Our democracy is killing 1.5 million children per year in the name of women's dignity, we seem to have a bad habit of spewing pornography at every other turn and the government keeps on getting more bloated by day. Where is the dignity in that?

As I said, imperfect execution does not mean an imperfect ideal. You point to things that have escalated terribly since the 1960s - oddly since the time G-d was tossed finally out of the public square. If you wanted me to admit that it takes a partnership with G-d to create a good government you had only to ask. I know it is true.

Wrong in your opinion, and of course anyone who disagrees ought not stand in your way.

Once again, truth isn't a matter of my opinion.

What was Stalin's old line? If you want to make an omelet, you've got to break a few eggs.

And for all that, Stalin didn't make anything but burnt toast.

For someone who talks so much about human dignity, you leave precious little room for self-determination, once again, back to the French Revolution and Their hypocrisy.

So liberating a people so they can create a government of self-determination is leaving precious little room for self-determination? As I said, once we liberate a people to choose their own form of government and they choose to live under a tyrant then I'll modify my stance. Until then, freeing people from tyrrany so they can make their own choice remains a moral imperative - even if they haven't the strength to free themselves nor the freedom to ask for our help.

Shalom.

28 posted on 02/18/2005 5:15:00 AM PST by ArGee (Having homosexual sex makes as much sense as drinking beer through your a$$.)
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To: ArGee
As I said, imperfect execution does not mean an imperfect ideal. You point to things that have escalated terribly since the 1960s - oddly since the time G-d was tossed finally out of the public square.

Which happened in a democracy, being as it is, a humanist institution, ergo fatally flawed from the get-go. The only difference between the French and American revolutions is they did it quickly while we stretched it out for 150 years.

So liberating a people so they can create a government of self-determination is leaving precious little room for self-determination?

They are free already to be self-determining, but like the feminists of yesteryear who didn't want motherhood to be seen as a woman's choice "because too many women would make the wrong choice" you feel it is necessary to impose your political ideals on other cultures because your morality tells you a particular political system is imperative. That is truly the very arrogance that inspires hatred for America around the world.

As I said, once we liberate a people to choose their own form of government and they choose to live under a tyrant then I'll modify my stance.

Noted. However it'll probably be a theocratic oligarchy and we'll most likely have them as an enemy within a decade from when we ever leave.

30 posted on 02/20/2005 9:04:35 AM PST by TradicalRC (I'd rather live in a Christian theocracy than a secular democracy.)
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