Posted on 02/13/2005 8:34:18 PM PST by CitizenHelper
In true punk rock fashion, Green Day tested the censors at the Grammy Awards on Sunday _ and the censors were ready. The Bay Area rockers, on a career high with their "American Idiot" album, added a shot of rock 'n' roll adrenaline by performing the title cut. The disc won the Grammy for best rock album.
The song includes a prominent obscenity in one of the lyrics, but the censors were plainly prepared and neatly excised the word. They couldn't delete, however, singer Billie Joe Armstrong's pointed political reference to not wanting to be part of a redneck agenda.
Green Day was energetic and confident, a band that's grown up but hasn't left its punk roots behind: witness the smoothly practiced leap and landing from the riser by drummer Tre Cool. And Armstrong was a live wire.
By the way, what's up with trios that expand to quartets onstage but pretend the other member doesn't exist? At least the camera operators didn't completely ignore the mysterious fourth member on guitar.
Well, see, there is where we differ. I think their music is just fine. But if this is your reason for not liking them, then I really have no problem with your opinion. After all, there are many types of music I hate (techno, for example), which I'm sure other think are comparable to Mozart...don't ask why.
I disagree, there are lots of great new artists making really fine new music, just as there are lots of older artists (Loretta Lynn, for instance) who can no longer get a major label deal but who are putting out terrific music on independent labels. The problem is that the big-time music industry used to look for the very best musical talents (from Sinatra to Clapton to Aretha) and promote them, expecting that record buyers would appreciate their obviously superior quality. Sure, there was always some garbage, but that wasn't the primary output. Today, it is: filthy-mouthed rappers, manufactured pop stars, cookie-cutter hip-hop that just rips off riffs from older records made by actual musical talents, etc.
Most of what I heard on the Grammys tonight was tuneless, moronic, cliched, second- and third-hand, downright unlistenable rubbish, churned out by people who, 25 years ago, wouldn't have been considered talented enough to get a job in a recording studio cleaning the toilets. And by the way: I work in radio and have spent over 30 years in recording studios, so I know whereof I speak. Any competent bar band probably has more musical talent than half the people I saw on CBS tonight.
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"A TRIO that never has needed a 4th member and was locked out again this year and lost best rock instrumental to Brian Wilson. RUSH"
RUSH is so far above and beyond joke bands like Green Day it's not even funny.
The Grammys are nothing more than a recognition of the amount of cash flow generated by a given act for the record company. Only in rare cases is musical quality an issue.
Creed is conservative?
Good post by the way. One thing I would add though, is that if an artist is too vocal with their politics, they cease to be entertainers and instead become activists. Its very had to be entertained by an activist of any kind.
This is especially difficult if the lyrics of the song are just activist propaganda. I really like the music of the Eagles and Don Henley but his rabid liberalism just turns me off. At least most of the Eagles tunes are activist free, but many of Henley's new work is full of activist drivel.
Great point. You've just pinpointed "Old Fogey" syndrome. Not only does this apply to music, but to sports, fashion and society.
Example 1: Now Johny Unitas was a real football player and a real man - not like these overpaid "athletes" of today."
Example 2: When I was young, a young lady would never wear something like that out in public. We had class and style.
Example 3: Children of today just don't respect their elders the way children of my day did.
I first recognized that I was coming down with this syndrome aka the "Generation Gap" when I was in my late thirties and I snapped at my nephews with the TV blaring "Turn down that darn MTV!" I then proceeded to LMAO because it was so apparent that I was past getting "old".
Odd. For me, "Dancing In The Dark" is Springsteen's low point, artistically speaking. I guess that's why some people like chocolate and others vanilla!
The country acts were actually quite good. I actually watched over an hour of the program. I remember a few years bck they only had CRAP RAP....I turned off immediately.
As far as the "new" rockers, never heard of any of them. Frankly, I'd rather watch a rerun of a Grammy show in the 60's or 70's than any "live" one. That was back when music was music.
Millionaire guys pushing 40 still acting like angst-fueled teenagers is sooo pathetic.
Which is really weird since their song "Get Over It" could be considered a conservative anthem.
"I'm oooooold! And I'm not happy! And I don't like things now compared to the way they used to be. All this progress -- phooey!!"
They peaked with Good Riddance(Time of your Life)
I don't know why you responded to me. I never said their music was bad, just their leftist politicking.
Haha, sorry, I think I was too lazy to go all the way back up to post #1...once I'm in a groove, I hate doing that :x
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