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To: Havoc
Now you sound like a cultist trying to convince people that there is no such thing as absolute truth

Well, the cultist is the guy you see when you look in the mirror. There is absolute truth -- it doesn't mean that you or I know it.

The issue is whether what you believe is true or not. And you don't seem to have any inkling of the difference

Neither do you have any proof that what you believe is true. Wait, I know, it's true because you believe in it. Little narcissistic, don't you think?

They knew what scripture was and duplicated all of it save for I believe 6 verses within the 1st century by quoting it

Ignorance is bliss and you are basking in it! For three hundred years the Fathers debated what is inspired and what not. You obviously know nothing of the Church history. Yes, the Fathers knew scripture when they saw it, but there were numerous false "Gospels" and manuscripts floating around that had to be separated, and even those that some thought were genuine others thought not -- while others thought of false as acceptable. You really need to learn some facts for a change.

Christianity was being hijacked and false doctrine came in to lead people astray

There are 33,000 or more Protestant 'denominations' -- what makes you think we know what Christianity is today? We all believe with imperfect knowledge, including you. Believing does not make you right or righteous -- even the demons believe in God.

774 posted on 03/12/2005 11:14:14 PM PST by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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To: kosta50
Well, the cultist is the guy you see when you look in the mirror. There is absolute truth -- it doesn't mean that you or I know it.

We may not know it all; but, as much as resides in scripture we do know and have the capacity by the mind of Christ to understand. You're making excuses for ignorance.

Ignorance is bliss and you are basking in it! For three hundred years the Fathers debated what is inspired and what not. You obviously know nothing of the Church history. Yes, the Fathers knew scripture when they saw it, but there were numerous false "Gospels" and manuscripts floating around that had to be separated, and even those that some thought were genuine others thought not -- while others thought of false as acceptable. You really need to learn some facts for a change.

Oh, I'm well aware of the facts. I've been studying comparative religion since the late 80s. I've been debating religion for more than Six years now. And you are still making excuses.

There are 33,000 or more Protestant 'denominations'

Who cares. I'm a Christian. There are 33,000 different ideas about what Catholicism is. Who cares. There is One Christianity with One master - Jesus Christ. We don't all believe with imperfect knowledge, we believe or disbelieve based on what we are taught from scripture or learn from scripture on our own. You apparently haven't learned from scripture. You've learned plenty of philosophy; but, that won't save you or excuse what you accept that is unscriptural. Understand, in the end, you'll be judged based on the Word of God. You can't go before God scratching your head and saying 'sorry God, we have an imperfect knowledge and just can't know you..' You'll wear a God-sized bootprint on your butt as you scream on the way back down. Stop trying to beg excuse here for five seconds and imagine begging excuse before God. And keep in mind the passage where in he states: Romans 1:20 "For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, [even] his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:" You're without excuse. And what I just did was state it from proper authority.

788 posted on 03/13/2005 1:12:44 AM PST by Havoc (Reagan was right and so was McKinley. Down with free trade. Hang the traitors high)
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