[nmh]

It's a fake and has been reproduced. The cloth and how it was made was also identified. There is nothing special about this piece of cloth - NOTHING. It is also not Christ. LOL! It's certainly NOT His image either.

Geesh, I've never seen people so eager to believe a lie despite evidence to the contrary! Satan must be laughing his arse off at this nonsense. He' loves it when you "venerate" objects and graven images. It's right up his alley.

There is nothing you can do or say to me to have me worship this cloth of proclaim Christ to be a hypocrite since He forbid graven images that you are attracted to. Go bother someone else with this ridiculous blasphemous nonsense.

[Vicomte13]

Please provide me a link to a reproduction that results not in a picture of the Shroud, but an image formed of the same substances.

The cloth is linen. Of course how the cloth was made has been identified. Men made the cloth. The question is, how did the image get on it.

The image on it, which is actually on both sides of the sheet, is about a sixth of the thickness of the human hair. It is composed of chemical changes in the starch coating of the linen fibers, through a biological process. It isn't painted on. And we do not know how to make a clear, precise image using a process like that. Forensics efforts speculate that the gasses emitted from a dead body could have caused the pattern to have formed as it has.

Who wants you to worship a piece of cloth?

What I REALLY hope you will do is keep blindly asserting "It's a FAKE" and similar statements, without evidence, so that I can, bit by bit, counter with the forensic pathologists' findings. It won't convince YOU, of course, but in the battle of ideas, the science to which I cite will certainly cause others to think, and given a choice between concrete facts and blank assertions, more people will be persuaded by the facts.

I eagerly await your next volley, therefore.