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To: nmh

Please provide me a link to a reproduction that results not in a picture of the Shroud, but an image formed of the same substances.

The cloth is linen. Of course how the cloth was made has been identified. Men made the cloth. The question is, how did the image get on it.

The image on it, which is actually on both sides of the sheet, is about a sixth of the thickness of the human hair. It is composed of chemical changes in the starch coating of the linen fibers, through a biological process. It isn't painted on. And we do not know how to make a clear, precise image using a process like that. Forensics efforts speculate that the gasses emitted from a dead body could have caused the pattern to have formed as it has.

Who wants you to worship a piece of cloth?

What I REALLY hope you will do is keep blindly asserting "It's a FAKE" and similar statements, without evidence, so that I can, bit by bit, counter with the forensic pathologists' findings. It won't convince YOU, of course, but in the battle of ideas, the science to which I cite will certainly cause others to think, and given a choice between concrete facts and blank assertions, more people will be persuaded by the facts.

I eagerly await your next volley, therefore.


495 posted on 02/17/2005 9:30:21 AM PST by Vicomte13 (La nuit s'acheve!)
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To: Vicomte13
If you want to worship it or sleep with it, that is up to you.

For me, I'll stick with the Word of God and not allow images to dominate my life.

Watch a documentary on it sometime. They have reproduced the IDENTICAL image without allot of trouble. Do you normally believe anything that comes down the pike and especially when it is abominable to God? You are guilty of precisely what He hates about graven images.

Clearly, I have wasted enough time with this nonsense. Knowing it is critically important for someone like yourself to have the last word - do so and flame away.

499 posted on 02/17/2005 2:39:39 PM PST by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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