To: BMC1; nmh
"It's not a graven image unless you worship the image"
The second commandment is clear enough that a child can understand. You are not to make a graven image, or likeness and you are not to bow down to it or serve it.
Exd 20:4 Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness [of any thing] that [is] in heaven above, or that [is] in the earth beneath, or that [is] in the water under the earth:
Exd 20:5 Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God [am] a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth [generation] of them that hate me;
Exd 20:6 And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments.
42 posted on
02/12/2005 1:23:30 PM PST by
DocRock
To: DocRock
You really don't think people will "worship" this?
LOL!
Walk into a few churches and see them pray TO the statute.
66 posted on
02/12/2005 2:37:49 PM PST by
nmh
(Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
To: DocRock
The second commandment is clear enough that a child can understand. You are not to make a graven image, or likeness and you are not to bow down to it or serve it. You sound like a muxzle. We don't worship the symbol. We worship what the symbol points to. It is an aid to prayer, nothing more.
67 posted on
02/12/2005 2:38:50 PM PST by
ichabod1
(The Spirit of the Lord Hath Left This Place)
To: DocRock
The second commandment is clear enough that a child can understand. You are not to make a graven image, or likeness Simple? So is Exodus 25, which flatly commands the creation of graven images atop the holiest object in the Jewish religion. So is 1 Kgs 7:25, which describes the bronze sea in Solomon's temple, which sat on 12 graven images of oxen. So is 1 Kgs 6:23-29, which describes the graven images of cherubim which Solomon placed within the sanctuary. So is 1 Kgs 10:19-20, which describes the graven images of lions on either side of Solomon's throne.
Do you want me to go on? The Jews have never understood the first commandment to be a blanket prohibition on the making of all images, not in a religious context, or in any other context, either. They understand it to be a prohibition of the making of images of false gods, which it is, and a prohibition on the making of images of the true God ... which it isn't, for Christians, because Jesus Christ is the image of the invisible God for us (Colossians 1:15).
As our Greek friend explained above, the Muslim-inspired heresy of iconoclasm was crushed by the second council of Nicaea over 1000 years ago. Since then as before, Christians use sacred images.
186 posted on
02/12/2005 9:53:42 PM PST by
Campion
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