Posted on 02/10/2005 7:46:33 AM PST by MedNole
When are they going to get rid of the illegal immigrants sucking up all the health costs?
All right, what did I miss here? Someone takes something he then doesn't pay for? In the case of a citizen deduct it from his pay. In the case of illegals stop them on the way in to this country.
No on will ever force me to "buy" health insurance.
You seriously believe your premiums would go down? HA !
Not really. If you live in a high crime area, your car insurance is higher because your car is more likely to be stolen (not your fault). If you live in an are where there are more bad drivers (not your fault) your rates go up.
How would I be paying for his treatment? I don't want universal health care...I DESPISE universal health care. These are INDEMNITY policies, that should never be confused with universal health care.
Everyone can afford these policies, and the government wouldn't even sell them. The vast majority of the uninsured can be described as "the working poor." If we require the working poor to pay for a minimal level of indemnity coverage, then they stop becoming a burden on the rest of us.
And we think for two seconjds that insurance rates will go down when its mandatory..
How can too many people NOT HAVING insurance drive costs up? Too many people not having insurance would drive costs DOWN!
Medical costs are spiraling BECAUSE of medical insurance, not for lack of it. Back when people had to pay out of their own pockets, the costs were more reasonable. But now that it's the "insurance company" that pays, not the patient, why not charge $100,000 for an operation? Or $1,000 a night stay in the hospital? Or $100 a pill?
People would not tolerate such high prices without the dynamic of people thinking that "who cares if it's so expensive, the insurance company will pay for it."
I understand there are some arguable benefits from overpricing in terms of better health care. But mandating health insurance will NOT lower medical costs... It will RAISE them. And insurance rates will subsequently increase, as well.
Dear Lord, are you slow. When the poor can't pay, the State will subsidize their policies, just as they do now with car insurance.
This is a ploy to introduce government health care. They know that the people who can't afford health insurance won't be able to comply with the law so the next step will be to introduce government health coverage to let people comply with the law. Viola! Government health coverage sneaked in the back door. This is a diasterous idea, IMO. I will resist it.
Read the article. It lays the blame of increasing health care costs on everything except illegal aliens and trial lawyers.
The article does rightfully blame an ageing population, more high tech procedures and young healthy people opting out of a system that is not worth their money.
Indemnity policies are not offer typical health care coverage. They are very inexpensive, and only offer catastrophic coverage. Anyone with a job can afford one.
No, they won't stop people on the street to look at their health insurance cards. They should require all employees to show proof to their employers. If someone shows up in an ER without insurance, they should be treated, but they should also be followed up on to make sure they show proof of some minimal level of health care insurance.
Maybe we could get the $5,000 deductible out of their "earned income tax". Just consficate it like our taxes are consficated out of our paychecks.
Insurance is where everyone pays into a pool and benefits are paid out according to "need". It is the very embodiment of Karl Marx.
Easy now. Insurance may be socialism, but it is private property, voluntary, socialism. It is a free society answer to a communal need without the heavy hand of government. Marx should have been so smart.
The problem with health insurance is that health care is now considered a necessity, like electricity, water, roads, sewers, etc. The problem is how to pay for them without someone gaming the system privately for huge profits, doctors, insurance companies, lawyers, or lowering the quality by too much government interference.
I don't know why mexico dosn't become the 51st state. They wander into this part of the country freely anyways, and burden the system. May as well make them 'merkins and give them social security cards so we can at least track them.
Hopefully, you realize that what is really inflating health care costs are unnecessary testing to avoid lawsuits and treatment for chronic, not acute illnesses. The unpaid ER bills are not the main problem. Most doctors pay malpractice insurance of at least 30 K per year and sometimes over 200 K per year.
Don't forget to mention how government loving Socialistas envy, resent and despise the role the insurers have developed in "socialized risk" and press desperately to usurp any such role by private sector entities with GovernMental domination!!!
So this little deal here is another example to them getting government to grab off more control of the insurance industry in the creeping grand design of ultimate Socialism!!!
Plus, CA also passed a law that mandated all landfills be closed and the "waste-stream" be dried up in the decade of the 90's, too! Kinda like writing a law mandating the sun set in the east no later than 2015!!! Phhhhht! (no, I haven't read the thread, yet)
[I]Dear Lord, are you slow. When the poor can't pay, the State will subsidize their policies, just as they do now with car insurance.[/I]
I never suggested that the state subsidize these really, really inexpensive policies. Please, show me where I even implied this.
BINGO!
Of course the illegals will be allowed to opt out of this and continue their free ride like always.
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