Get rid of kids wearing pants down to their knees

the washington times ^ | feb 8,2005 | By Christina Bellantoni

[Mr Rogers]

Government does legitimately have that power. Otherwise, we would have the right to go nude anywhere we want.

The question is, "Where to draw the line?" Most agree total nudity in public areas is too much.

I don't care if someone's underwear is peeping out - but I HAVE seen teenagers who were wearing pants with half or more of their butt crack showing - in a McDonalds. That was repulsive.

Should it have been illegal? Don't know...I would as soon see a law preventing the sale of spandex in clothes above a certain size, or a requirement that bare midriffs only be allowed if there are no rolls of fat showing.

Unwise law? Perhaps.

Unconstitutional? No.

[Modernman]

Should it have been illegal? Don't know...I would as soon see a law preventing the sale of spandex in clothes above a certain size, or a requirement that bare midriffs only be allowed if there are no rolls of fat showing.

I hope you're kidding. Do you really love the nanny state that much?

[Mr Rogers]

I assume you are female. Why?

Because I've never met a guy who thought fat chicks should be allowed to wear spandex...

Spandex with a size 42" waist is JUST WRONG!

[Modernman]

Because I've never met a guy who thought fat chicks should be allowed to wear spandex...

I find it incredibly humorous, tell you the truth. What is funnier than a really fat woman in really tight clothes?

[muir_redwoods]

"Which part of the Bill of Rights covered that, so to speak?"

Since you asked, it would be the 1st amendment. It's interpreted to allow for the right to freedom of expression.

[Mr Rogers]

Freedom of expression has NEVER been interpreted to allow public nudity. The principle is the same.

[Lando Lincoln]

bfl

[muir_redwoods]

"Freedom of expression has NEVER been interpreted to allow public nudity. The principle is the same."

Actually, if you review the career of Spencer Tunick you'll see that public nudity is in fact very much a legally protected act of self expression that is legal in many, many places and gets "judicially legalized" when it is challenged in an increasing number of jurisdictions.

How one chooses to dress is an act of self-expression. Revealing skin is a protected act. We may not like it but it's protected.

[Mr Rogers]

Horsepucky!

[muir_redwoods]

"Horsepucky!"

I wilt in contemplation of your impeccable logic.

[Mr Rogers]

You should - just be careful about what part wilts, as you stroll naked down the street expressing yourself publicly...

[muir_redwoods]

Find an adult who can read and have them explain my responses to you. I have only tried to educate you (pointlessly it seems)about what the law allows under the 1st amendment and it's interpretation relative to freedom of expression. I understand when the words get too big or the ideas too complex that you are reduced to expressions like "Horsepucky" or personal aspersions but, as I said, find a nice grown-up and they can explain it to you.

[Mr Rogers]

You have not tried to educate me. You have made a statement that is transparently false - that freedom of expression gives one the right to walk around naked in public.

Have you heard of nude beaches? They are called that to distinguish them from all other beaches - where nudity is NOT allowed.

If you believe your own drivel, walk down a public sidewalk in most any town in America nude - then have an adult explain to the cops that you are engaging in freedom of expression.

You will quickly find that you are wrong.

I hate to break it to you, but repeating what is obviously false does NOT constitute logic.

[mdmathis6]

I say don't fine them...rather amend the law granting freedom from prosecution, those who give in to the terrible perversion of "sneak attack underwear wedgies"!

You want to stop this practice real quick, allow private citizens to band to gether to "wedgie" these punks without prosecution...IN THE NAME OF FREE SPEECH!

[muir_redwoods]

Spencer Tunick is an artist who takes pictures all over America of large groups of naked people outside. He is wide open about his activity and has never been prosecuted nor does he seek permits or permission from authorities. His work is displayed in galleries where you can go see it. Women in NY are not required to wear tops following a court decision two years ago. In Maine two naked women were arrested but the charges were dropped because the Maine statute barred the exposure of "genitals" and they argued successfully that female genitals are internal and not exposed even when naked.

It is legal in many (and an increasing number)of jurisdiction in America to go naked in public. I am not going to waste any more time trying to educate the truly ineducable but I have given you references to follow if you want to.