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To: Alacarte
Yes, but your implication that these unexplained phenomena do not have natural explanations is baseless.

I do not mean to imply that all unexplained phenomena do not have natural explanations. Science will never stop discovery, thank goodness.

What I mean to point out is that true naturalists believe that there is no such thing as miracle. (what you referred to as magic)

BTW, miracle and magic are not the same. Magic is trickery that can be scientifically explained. Miracle is something divine which cannot be scientifically explained.

984 posted on 02/09/2005 6:56:20 AM PST by houeto ("Mr. President , close our borders now!")
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To: houeto
BTW, miracle and magic are not the same. Magic is trickery that can be scientifically explained. Miracle is something divine which cannot be scientifically explained.

Apparently this means that you believe in divine intervention.

986 posted on 02/09/2005 7:07:02 AM PST by WildTurkey (When will CBS Retract and Apologize?)
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To: houeto
What I mean to point out is that true naturalists believe that there is no such thing as miracle.

When discussing science, this is irrelevant. Scientists do not accept supernatural explanations (magic, miracles, ghosts) for natural phenomena. Anyone who does accept supernatural explanations, as opposed to seeking naturalistic explanations, is most certainly not a scientist.

Whether scientists believe in the supernatural or not means nothing. All that matters is that when it comes to their work, they employ only naturalistic methods. Science does not operate outside the framework of naturalism. Science without naturalism is called useless philosophy.
1,061 posted on 02/09/2005 11:06:30 AM PST by Alacarte (There is no knowledge that is not power)
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