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To: AntiGuv
In fact, I personally think that if abiogenesis is the ultimate origin of life on earth . . .If instead some kind of deity were the first cause of terrestrial evolutionary development then it would be more efficient to just design the first, solitary replicating organism . . .

For many that's the point of the debate -- you believe, or want to believe, that the existence of God is impossible so you want that established as conventional wisdom.

if we did uncover it then it would definitely not contravene the scientific underpinnings of evolution in the slightest

Well, it would actually since the modern thesis demands a common ancestor. Now, understand, I'm not saying that evolution isn't responsible for a great deal of biodiversity -- just that in no way does it explain everything and there are those who insist that it does to the point of silliness.

What evidence would it take for you to believe in God?

946 posted on 02/09/2005 5:31:15 AM PST by Tribune7
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To: Tribune7

If you stake your faith on the absence of abiogenesis, you might end up like the flat earthers.

Just make up your mind that God did it and we may never fully understand how. Otherwise, you may find that the mustard seed rotted.


953 posted on 02/09/2005 5:50:02 AM PST by shubi (Peace through superior firepower.)
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To: Tribune7
For many that's the point of the debate -- you believe, or want to believe, that the existence of God is impossible so you want that established as conventional wisdom.

Quite to the contrary, I fervently want to believe in God but since there is no evidence whatsoever of his existence and much to suggest otherwise, I don't. Sorry that I don't conform to your silly stereotype.

My statement was conditional, and included both alternatives. If I were making a definitive statement I would've began: In fact, I personally think that since abiogenesis is the ultimate origin of life on earth...

Well, it would actually since the modern thesis demands a common ancestor.

Well, no, it really, actually wouldn't. The "modern thesis" is not a religious dogma fantasized irrationally out of the ether. It is a compiled scientific paradigm established by the overwhelming evidence of common descent. The reason that the "modern thesis" is the modern thesis is simply because every form of life we've discovered clearly evidences a descent common with every other known form of life. If we uncovered some terrestrial life form that evidenced an origin apart from this common lineage, it would not even remotely undermine the scientific evidence of common descent for every other known form of life.

The modern thesis "demands" nothing aside that it account for all the scientific evidence. If the evidence changes, the thesis will change accordingly. Religion has its own separate rules so try not to confuse the two.

What evidence would it take for you to believe in God?

Evidence of his existence, as opposed to conjecture about the unexplained.

972 posted on 02/09/2005 6:24:10 AM PST by AntiGuv (™)
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