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To: WildTurkey; shubi
Both of your responses were typical ad hominem attacks: those who find fault with evolution are "quacks" and non-scientists.

The following is a partial list of people who were both scientists and creationists. Note that the "founder" of the scientific method was a creation science adherent. Both of you tell me with a straight face that these scientists are "quacks" and non-scientists.

Early

The Age of Newton

Just Before Darwin

Just After Darwin

The Modern Period


726 posted on 02/08/2005 5:44:47 PM PST by Theo
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To: Theo

Are you saying that all those scientists opposed evolution? Most of them died before Darwin lived.


738 posted on 02/08/2005 6:07:14 PM PST by WildTurkey (When will CBS Retract and Apologize?)
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To: Theo

So?


740 posted on 02/08/2005 6:10:40 PM PST by shubi (Peace through superior firepower.)
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To: Theo

I picked your last. By ChristianAnswers he was the ONLY one.

"Wilder-Smith was the first and only person to have the courage to refute evolutionary theory as a whole on a principal level."


746 posted on 02/08/2005 6:19:39 PM PST by WildTurkey (When will CBS Retract and Apologize?)
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To: Theo
Could you please provide us with the source of your list? Thanks.

The following is a partial list of people who were both scientists and creationists.

There are numerous problems with this list. At least if we assume that "creationists" are meant to be understood as "antievolutionists". (Of course most evolutionists are also creationists, in that most believe in God and embrace some kind of creation doctrine. This is no surprise if we bear in mind the around 90 percent of the population are theists of some sort, and well over half are evolutionists of some sort.)

I'll ignore the pre-Darwin portion of the list, because that's just silly. From the "Just After Darwin" portion, the following are ones that I happen to know, just off the top of my head, were either outright evolutionists or open to evolution:

Matthew Maury
James Dana
John William Dawson
William Thompson, Lord Kelvin

I'm pretty certain there are others erroneously included. Some of these inclusions are really inexcusable. Dana, for instance, was famously cited as an anti-evolutionist in his lifetime and wrote to the magazine to correct this. After a hundred and twenty five years you guys should be able to get this stuff right.

Both of you tell me with a straight face that these scientists are "quacks" and non-scientists.

Most aren't, but at least one or two are. I don't know a great deal about Charles Piazzi Smyth ("Astronomy" in "Just After Darwin"). Maybe he was a decent astronomer, but he engaged in quackery in his role as a founder of "pyramidology". In the modern period Clifford Burdick "Geologist" never obtained a genuine graduate (let alone advanced) degree, passed off phoney credentials at various times, and was widely considered a doofus even by fellow creationists.

915 posted on 02/09/2005 1:22:19 AM PST by Stultis
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