Posted on 02/08/2005 3:50:43 AM PST by PatrickHenry
a quick scan does not indicate anything about exothermic chemical reactions converting mass into energy or endothermic chemical reactions converting energy into mass. I'll do a more thorough read later.
"1.5. The extreme size of this conversion figure was interesting in several respects. In the first place, it explained why the equiva-lence of mass and energy was never observed in ordinary chemical combustion. We now believe that the heat given off in such a combustion has mass associated with it, but this mass is so small that it cannot he detected bv the most sensitive balances avail-able. (It is of the order of a few billionths of a gram per mole.)"
The mousetrap was Behe's example. He wheeled that argument out again in a talk that I went to. He claimed that the mousetrap parts couldn't have been designed without being part of the mousetrap.
Another common misconception.
From the electrons. They are in a lower state after combustion. Of course, the mass loss is smaller than that lost in nuclear reactions; the energy is much lower.
This is an example of argument from incredulity, because irreducible complexity can evolve naturally.
And that's an example of an argument from credulity (or faith) i.e. It's irreducibily complex but evolution is true so it must have evolved or since evolution is true it's impossible for something to be irreducibly complex.
The bacterial flagellum is not even irreducible. Some bacterial flagella function without the L- and P-rings.
Now, this did not come up in my previous post addressing this subject but for a flagellum to function it needs the pump and motor, not the rings.
Yes, BUT he was arguing from design. The mousetrap is designed. You can't respond by saying "well this is how it could have evolved" without looking really stupid.
Talkorigins? That's like me linking to ICR.
"we now believe" as of 1940 but can't detect it with the technology of the day
got anything more recent?
I apologize. The phrase you used was "fellows that cooked up the Bible"
Thank you.
()Morton's Demon(/)
I was trying to supply something from the better minds of our times. Try this discussion of simple heating, not even a chemical reaction.
http://64.233.161.104/search?q=cache:6DWqpXmT8cEJ:fie.engrng.pitt.edu/eng12/Author/final/132.doc+combustion+mass+to+energy+conversion+e%3Dmc2&hl=en&ie=UTF-8
"Now we can reserve the relation E=mc2 and say that an increase of E in the amount of energy must be accompanied by an increase of E/c2 in the mass. It is very easy to supply energy to mass—for instance heat it by ten degrees. So why not measure the mass increase connected with this change? It is nearly impossible. Keep in mind that the speed of light is equal to three hundred million meters per second. Thus in calculating the mass increase, one would divide the energy by the speed of light squared. When such a big number is in the denominator, the quotient (or answer to division problem) tends to be very small. Thus an increase in mass does occur, but it is too small to be measured directly; even with the most sensitive balance."
Only by God's grace, the United States developed the atomic bomb before Nazi Germany or Imperial Japan.
The founding of our nation, and those who were involved in it were obviously divinely inspired.
The people in my life I am blessed with.
The wonders of nature.
The human feelings of hope, faith, love, charity, grief, despair is proof to me there is God. You may not understand this, but you may.
The many times in my irresponsible youth when I easily could have died, been maimed or contributed to it happening to others and it did not happen. Mere chance? I think not.
The wonder of seeing my small nieces and nephews during their most excellerated learning stage is wonder from God.
The miracle of breathing is a wonder from God.
The miracle of sight is a wonder from God.
When I'm able to work all day long at near 50 years old and realize the sun is setting yet again and God as blessed me with another day on His earth and I thank him, I know there is a God.
Great question, thank you.
What proof do you have that there is a God?
Another spell nazi.
No. You opened the subject of your spelling and posted that you should use a dictionary. I pointed out that there is an installed spell checker to aid you.
You posted that you enjoyed learning and I posted that apparently you had not learned from my post. I made NO comment about your spelling.
LOL. I'll take a pound of Mandlebrat. You know, Mandelbrot who created the procedures for getting Mandelbrot figures? It's generalized now.
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