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To: Tribune7

The mousetrap was Behe's example. He wheeled that argument out again in a talk that I went to. He claimed that the mousetrap parts couldn't have been designed without being part of the mousetrap.


1,584 posted on 02/10/2005 12:19:09 PM PST by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch is der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: Doctor Stochastic
The mousetrap was Behe's example.

Yes, BUT he was arguing from design. The mousetrap is designed. You can't respond by saying "well this is how it could have evolved" without looking really stupid.

1,588 posted on 02/10/2005 12:23:21 PM PST by Tribune7
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To: Doctor Stochastic; Tribune7

Of course everyone knows that springs couldn't have been designed without being designed as a part of a mousetrap, since there's no other purpose that springs can be used for. Same applies to metal rods, pieces of wood, etc. That's the downfall of many of these irreducible complexity arguments. It is possible that all the parts evolved for some other function and only later became incorporated into the system that is claimed to be irreducibly complex.


1,776 posted on 02/11/2005 5:08:20 AM PST by stremba
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