Posted on 02/07/2005 10:09:57 AM PST by conservlib
Actually, since the sixth century, the Muslims plan, and drive was and still is to convert as many people as possible to Islam. That can happen only through orchestrated effort of Muslim countries, and Islamic underground organizations that are typically winked at by the Muslim governments.
The U.S. and most of the West are not so attached to their religion, and are not so driven to convert others at any cost to any particular religion. That IS a mistake in the current war against the Muslim terrorists. The enemys drive is to convert us to Islam!! If we can ALL agree on that one statement, then there will be hope for my readers to follow my logic.
OK, I am going to assume that all my readers confirm that our enemys single motive that drives him to kill himself is TO CONVERT US TO ISLAM! It follows then; the weapon to fight back is TO CONVERT THEM TO CHRISTIANITY, a la Ann Coulter. Now, I can hear all the screaming from our Jewish citizens saying but, the separation of church and state? We are not a Christian country? Our military knows only how to fight, and not to force convert people to Christianity! The answer to these concerns is yes I understand, but, we must inflict the REAL pain on the enemy. Killing the enemy is not pain, and we know it - the reason is because they are going to heaven with 72 virgins. What really hurt is to convert their wives or sister to Christianity , Judaism, Buddhism or Hinduism.
To deal with this issue, we must approach this subject OPENLY! Openly you said? Yes, our president, and media MUST openly discuss the concept of freedom to convert people from Islam to other religions. Our Jewish/Christian/Buddhist/Hindu/Godless organizations should be free to set up proselytizing shops in Saudi Arabia, and other Muslim nations to convince, and convert as many Muslims to their religions. At first, we are all programmed to think that that would never work, because Muslims kill any other Muslim that converts to other religion. The point here is this is the only effective weapon that they can understand. Failing to recognize that would only mean that we will be chancing our tails for many generations to come.
The Saudi government, and Most other Muslim governments are spending good part of their national income to proselytize Islam throughout the world, and if the rest of the world is indifferent about such OPEN activity, then the rest of the world is in denial of the driving force for Islam and Muslims, and the obvious counter measure needed to stop this drive. The UN and the rest of the world organizations MUST openly talk about the freedom of all people to believe, and practice their religions any where on this planet. If a person is convinced (not forced) to convert from one faith to another, there should never be retaliation (officially or not)! The whole world should be very much attuned to this simple idea, as we are (public/media/government) all attuned to Nazism, or racial discrimination as an evil thing that must be monitored and stopped. To this end, any force conversion in any far places like Sudan or Egypt should be front page news in the entire world, simply because it illustrates that one side is not playing fair!
Now do you suppose President Bush can call the King of Saudi Arabia and say hey my friend, you are building mosques all over my country, and are free to proselyte to our citizens; from now on, I expect reciprocation of favor. If not, we will demolish all the mosques that you funded, and stop all your proselytizing activities. If such discussions were made public to the whole world to see, do you suppose any fair minded person can call the US bully, or not diplomatic? How can equal treatment offend people? Why are we thinking that with guns we are going to affect people who are ready to die for Allah? Once we learn that the drive from the sixth century must be countered by counter drive; this would put the whole competition under fair ground rules, like any sport competitions. Outside referees will call any foul play.
John Kerry's family name is actually 'Kohn' and they were Czech Jews who came to America in the 1900's. This is public domain info and not any secret at this point.
The 1st part of the quote said we should "...KILL THEIR LEADERS...".
Let that start happening yesterday.
I am in the process of rereading Shirer's "Rise and Fall..." (which I highly recommend by the way) and Nazism is certainly grounded in German mythology and grounded, later, in the occult. However, I don't think anyone would call it a religion.
Well for one thing, christianity is true...
and another Mohammed was false.
In the article quoted at the start of this thread, which I have indicated in bold:
"Yes, our president, and media MUST openly discuss the concept of freedom to convert people from Islam to other religions. Our [b]Jewish/Christian/Buddhist/Hindu/Godless[/b] organizations should be free to set up proselytizing shops
I wasn't playing the victim card. I simply wanted to state where I was coming from on this - since people seem to be flamed the second they disagree with coulter on this site. And secondly, Joseph Smith was just a man, a very flawed one at that. I know he was a jackass in many ways but how does that disprove that an extermination order was made against mormons? i just felt that given this discussion it was relevant to mention.
If you read 'Mein Kampf' you'll see it was much more than a party - it really did verge on being a hybrid state religion. In any case, fanatical Muslims are measurably more irrational than the most fanatical Nazi. No Nazi ever strapped on a bomb and stepped onto a school bus.
If we stomped out Naziism for the reasons we did then why not stomp out Islam for measurably more serious reasons?
In the article quoted at the start of this thread, which I have indicated in bold:
"Yes, our president, and media MUST openly discuss the concept of freedom to convert people from Islam to other religions. Our [b]Jewish/Christian/Buddhist/Hindu/Godless[/b] organizations should be free to set up proselytizing shops""
that's interesting. although I think she was referring to kerry being a jew in the deragotory 'money grubbing' sort of way as opposed to ancestary. to be honest i'm not much a fan of hers so I may interpret things differently.
This was actually a very funny post!!
And the last time a Christian strapped on a Semtex vest and blew up a busload of Muslim schoolchildren was....when?
Uh oh.. you're going to open a whole can of worms there with the communist reference.. ;)
"I dislike the way she lumps Judaism in with being Godless. This is untrue."
No more than she lumped Christianity with the Godless!
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