Ann Coulter said it: We should CONVERT THEM TO CHRISTIANITY!

2/7/05 | consevlib

[conservlib]

Actually, since the sixth century, the Muslims plan, and drive was and still is to convert as many people as possible to Islam. That can happen only through orchestrated effort of Muslim countries, and Islamic underground organizations that are typically winked at by the Muslim governments.

The U.S. and most of the West are not so attached to their religion, and are not so driven to convert others at any cost to any particular religion. That IS a mistake in the current war against the Muslim terrorists. The enemy’s drive is to convert us to Islam!! If we can ALL agree on that one statement, then there will be hope for my readers to follow my logic.

OK, I am going to assume that all my readers confirm that our enemy’s single motive that drives him to kill himself is TO CONVERT US TO ISLAM! It follows then; the weapon to fight back is TO CONVERT THEM TO CHRISTIANITY, a la Ann Coulter. Now, I can hear all the screaming from our Jewish citizens saying but, the separation of church and state? We are not a Christian country? Our military knows only how to fight, and not to force convert people to Christianity! The answer to these concerns is yes I understand, but, we must inflict the REAL pain on the enemy. Killing the enemy is not pain, and we know it - the reason is because they are going to heaven with 72 virgins. What really hurt is to convert their wives or sister to Christianity , Judaism, Buddhism or Hinduism.

To deal with this issue, we must approach this subject OPENLY! Openly you said? Yes, our president, and media MUST openly discuss the concept of freedom to convert people from Islam to other religions. Our Jewish/Christian/Buddhist/Hindu/Godless organizations should be free to set up proselytizing shops in Saudi Arabia, and other Muslim nations to convince, and convert as many Muslims to their religions. At first, we are all programmed to think that that would never work, because Muslims kill any other Muslim that converts to other religion. The point here is this is the only effective weapon that they can understand. Failing to recognize that would only mean that we will be chancing our tails for many generations to come.

The Saudi government, and Most other Muslim governments are spending good part of their national income to proselytize Islam throughout the world, and if the rest of the world is indifferent about such OPEN activity, then the rest of the world is in denial of the driving force for Islam and Muslims, and the obvious counter measure needed to stop this drive. The UN and the rest of the world organizations MUST openly talk about the freedom of all people to believe, and practice their religions any where on this planet. If a person is convinced (not forced) to convert from one faith to another, there should never be retaliation (officially or not)! The whole world should be very much attuned to this simple idea, as we are (public/media/government) all attuned to Nazism, or racial discrimination as an evil thing that must be monitored and stopped. To this end, any force conversion in any far places like Sudan or Egypt should be front page news in the entire world, simply because it illustrates that one side is not playing fair!

Now do you suppose President Bush can call the King of Saudi Arabia and say hey my friend, you are building mosques all over my country, and are free to proselyte to our citizens; from now on, I expect reciprocation of favor. If not, we will demolish all the mosques that you funded, and stop all your proselytizing activities. If such discussions were made public to the whole world to see, do you suppose any fair minded person can call the US bully, or not diplomatic? How can equal treatment offend people? Why are we thinking that with guns we are going to affect people who are ready to die for Allah? Once we learn that the drive from the sixth century must be countered by counter drive; this would put the whole competition under fair ground rules, like any sport competitions. Outside referees will call any foul play.

[sodiumodium]

Well thanks. now i know never to take you seriously from now on. and i was going to make a point to leave the theology out of it and just state historical fact. your the reason i prefer that lds is NOT considered christianity. i don't like being associated with other denominations who don't care for us. i'm sure you'd prefer it too.

[mlc9852]

You are wasting your breath about separation of church and state and establishment. The separation crowd has their collective heads in the sand and don't want to believe it.

[Non-Sequitur]

I personally don't care what they think. Actions speak louder than words.

And I'm sure that you're going to be a big success in the conversion department.

[Bikers4Bush]

The ultimate goal of islam is to either convert eveyone to it or kill anyone who won't convert.

There's no room on this planet for a death cult like that.

[LauraleeBraswell]

Actually no,

The Torah as an authority recognizes that one must be born of a Jewish mother or a mother's mother, (in my case a mother's mother's mother) to be ethnically Jewish. One can be Jewish and be an atheist.
One may follow to the religion of Judaism that does not make he or she Jewish. You have to be born into it. You can be Jewish AND a Christian. You either are or you're not.

Jewish groups DO NOT proselytize in general. Judaism as it stands today descended from a tribal culture. That is one must have been born into a tribe, and so the line goes.
Have you heard of the Jewish Gene?

What made Christianity different was that it was inclusive it accepted all peoples. That is one of the reasons it was able to spread so throughout Europe. People were running around in caves and practicing human sacrifice. Christianity brought order, yes there was corruption as with any institution of man. But the impact has in all been a very positive one. It civilized people. But for some reason, today it's wrong to convert people.

[Vaquero]

convert their deserts to glass, then drill out the oil with diamond tipped drill rigs......

[Non-Sequitur]

That doesn't mean Christianity in general.

"Who is it who cannot see that the same who would consecrate Christianity above all other religions would then have to consecrate a particular sect of Christians above all other sects?" - James Madison

[ndkos]

I agree. Islam is a scourge that needs to be dealt with.

[conservlib]

Freedom of spreading ideologies should be a two way street. Do you have any problem with that. I think if their drive is to convert, and you challenge that by your own conversion missions, then we will have any even playing field.

[Non-Sequitur]

Freedom of spreading ideologies should be a two way street.

It should be, but it isn't. And it never will be.

[sodiumodium]

It will be interesting to see how much success christian missions to south east asia go in the post-tsunami relief 'era'

[conservlib]

Thanks for this bump. It mean a lot to me. This one concept can resolve most of the world terrorism problem. Hiding our heads in sands does not help. Guns do not work, only ideologies.

[conservlib]

Oh, baby!

[Dark Skies]

The world must all be attuned to the spread of Islam by force as we are attuned to Nazism!

Nazism was a political party...this thing called Islam is, I suggest, far more dangerous.

I agree that we must fight it or die at its hands but, as you can see from the diverse opinions on this thread, the deadliness of Islam is not acknowledged by many.

[Getsmart64]

"Well thanks. now i know never to take you seriously from now on. and i was going to make a point to leave the theology out of it and just state historical fact. your the reason i prefer that lds is NOT considered christianity. i don't like being associated with other denominations who don't care for us."

Hey...you played the victim card and mentioned your religion....and if you are a believer in Joseph Smith...then you are no doubt refuting historical fact...don't blame me if you're so sensitive about YOUR religion.....

[Tribune7]

Thanks for this bump. It mean a lot to me.

My pleasure and you are making an important point btw.

bump

[PeterFinn]

It is a matter of dealing with people who read and believe stuff like:

"Slay them wherever you find them...Idolatry is worse than carnage...Fight against them until idolatry is no more and God's religion reigns supreme." (Surah 2:190-)

"The only true faith in God's sight is Islam." (Surah 3:19)

"Seek out your enemies relentlessly." (Surah 4:103-)

"The Jews and Christians say: 'We are the children of God and His loved ones.' Say: 'Why then does He punish you for your sins?" (Surah 5:18)

"Believers, take neither Jews nor Christians for your friends." (Surah 5:51)

"Make war on them until idolatry shall cease and God's religion shall reign supreme." (Surah 8:36-)

"...make war on the leaders of unbelief...Make war on them: God will chastise them at your hands and humble them. He will grant you victory over them..." (Surah 9:12-)

"Fight against such as those to whom the Scriptures were given [Jews and Christians]...until they pay tribute out of hand and are utterly subdued." (Surah 9:27-)

"Believers, make war on the infidels who dwell around you. Deal firmly with them." (Surah 9:121-)

"Muhammad is God's apostle. Those who follow him are ruthless to the unbelievers but merciful to one another." (Surah 48:29)

You do not negotiate with people whose religion allows them to lie and prevaricate with 'non-believers'. People who want you converted or dead you do not negotiate with.

You kill them before they kill you and your family.

The Muslim issue is no different from how we confronted Communism. The spineless amongst us used to bleat as sheep, "Better Red than Dead!".

These same spineless pussies will say that it is far better to surrender to Islam than to fight it.

Here I say to you liberals that it is YOU the Muslims will kill first.

They'll kill the Hollywood liberals first.

Then the academic liberals.

Then the homosexuals.

They'll enslave the lesbians and make them bear children all whilst wearing burqhas.

Then they'll come for the Jews and finish the job Hitler started.

Then it'll be onto the total annihilation of the Bahai - whom they hate more than the Jews if you can imagine that.

Then it'll be the Catholics and then the Christians.

And finally it'll be anyone else who does not show up at the Mosque for Friday prayers.

You do not negotiate with these people anymore than you negotiate with Nazis. You hunt them down to the ends of the earth and kill them where you find them.

Because they will not ever hesitate to do it to you.

[mlc9852]

I say we convert with bombs.

[conservlib]

You are 100% correct. However, to get the ACLU, and the godless on board, I am including all Ideologies should be free with no force or counter force by any faith. Fair minded people should have no problem with that.

[sodiumodium]

I seem to remember from history lessons that nazism was very much religious ideology as it was political. i mean, isn't that the point of totalirism? Goebbels seemed to invoke god quite a bit in his speeches. but i'm not an expert so correct me if i'm wrong.